Maximum(non sc/turbo) HP out of the 4 cyl?

[stangcobra]

So I'm wondering, what is the maximum number of horses we can be pushing all motor with no spray, I've heard conflicting things, some say over 200 all bolton, some say like 180 all bolton...but I'd like to get a clear answer on this, and basically what is the peak hp number we can shoot for.
This goes into developing my build as I want to achieve max bolt on hp, add nitrous, and then start a turbo build...take my time with everything to try and push the highest numbers possible out of a GS.

[haladafs]

I honesty think that 200 whp wouldn't be that hard to get will all possible bolt ons and a good tune on the aem fic

[stangcobra]

Thats what I was thinking, after I posted I realized it will probably all come down to the tune...someone prove me wrong though

[zumspeedsupra]

PM me friday afternoon, I am getting my tune, and a dyno so I will be able to provide you with this answer. I am reallllyyy curious myself. I have CAI, headers, straight pipe, HKS can, under drive pulley and the FIC. So itll give everyone something to shoot for.

[Steven]

prob 220 max the thing about our eclipses is our performance chip constricts alot of our hp/torque so getting a new performance chip could add 20-30hp alone. Mine added 22 hp when i had my car as a gs. I did an engine swap. Here's where I bought mine, and I definitely say its worth it.
MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE GF Peformance Chip its only like 70.

[stangcobra]

Steven I really hope you're kidding
Those chips do nothing

[Steven]

that's fine I respect your opinion, I am saying from true personal experience. I understand your quite young and don't really understand all dynamics of how a cars hp/torque work, so I will let you learn in time.

[gspower]

^Are you fucking serious.....

[stangcobra]

Despite the personal attack on my age I will overlook that and now prove my point.
Why do you think it is that everyone on this site with a heavily modified eclipse makes use of the AEM f/ic
It's not because they hate themselves, but rather because a "performance chip" for the eclipse has not been developed yet...except for hackish's which no one really knows too much about
These chips have garnered a bad rep all over the internet, and I am sure when a more senior member of club4g posts here they will agree with me
Granted the concept behind the chips makes sense, the eclipse ecu is very limiting, however those chips specifically will do nothing.
Finally, despite my age I still know the proper use of your and you're, which you have misused in the post attacking me. Perhaps learn what you're talking about and make arguments in a coherent manner.

[zumspeedsupra]

Lol

[stangcobra]

High school debate team whatup
Arguments are where I excel

[Steven]

lol I'm not looking for your approval just a simple suggestion little guy, wasnt even trying to use proper grammar just typing. like others here our jobs end around 5 pm.
to each his own, not trying to put you down. will note that you have a 4g eclipse and have a name called stangcobra, but I am sure you have already been made fun of for that. good luck big guy

[SMeclipseGT]

lol man last time i thought a chip would do all that was probably when i had no clue about cars but hey who knows we will never be able to prove him wrong

[DustinH]

[zumspeedsupra]

Good timessss LOLOL anyway... dyno results will be up friday along with track slips as long as it doesnt rain... which there is a 50% chance so STAY TUNED

[DustinH]

Hmm..Bigger pistons, higher comp, GREAT tune, All the blot on crap you can find, Port and Polish head/intake..Bigger tb...Bigger valves....
Don't forget the performance chip...Id leave it in the package tho in the glove box...Works its best there.

[snakeeyes]

a buddy of mine recently bought one of these things for his new chevy pickup truck.i tried to warn him but he was hard headed.he tells me TODAY that his temp gauge was showing overheated.so then he took it back off and everything is back to normal.money WASTED!!! LMAO

[snakeeyes]

anyway,darkside recently posted he dyno'd @ 195 whp with all the bolt on's and a tune.

[stangcobra]

If I eat a bag of chips before I dyno the car will it have higher numbers, or do they have to be performance chips
So the number we're all kinda seeing/shooting for is about 200, that is, of course, depending on what zumspeed puts out

Also just to address steven's point about my name Stangcobra has been my online alias for about 5 years now, everything from games to forums to aim...so

[snakeeyes]

with luck,i hope he posts 200 cause he doesnt have any cats and dark still has his 3rd cat i believe.so 200 would be great !

[zumspeedsupra]

Originally Posted by stangcobra

If I eat a bag of chips before I dyno the car will it have higher numbers, or do they have to be performance chips
So the number we're all kinda seeing/shooting for is about 200, that is, of course, depending on what zumspeed puts out

Also just to address steven's point about my name Stangcobra has been my online alias for about 5 years now, everything from games to forums to aim...so

Exactly, as is mine, supra is a car I WILL own one day Use that name for everything.

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

with luck,i hope he posts 200 cause he doesn't have any cats and dark still has his 3rd cat i believe.so 200 would be great !

Damn well hopefully i can break 200, if not 195 gives me something to shoot for!

[snakeeyes]

even 195 is a vast improvement over stock which is 140.thats what im shootin for as soon as rre gets off their ass lol

[mrgibs121]

200ish i agree, without major changes to compression or a head PP or something... wtf is with that one dude talking about "performance chips"?! LOL

[muscles]

Originally Posted by Steven

that's fine I respect your opinion, I am saying from true personal experience. I understand your quite young and don't really understand all dynamics of how a cars hp/torque work, so I will let you learn in time.

woah now settle down. No performance chip will do anything for our cars. The only option we have that is readily available would be the AEM fic, along side with BrianJ's harness. If you havent figured/heard/know our ecu is a pain in the ass. But since your so heavily opinionated on this chip then please do go and purchase one and show us a before and after dyno. "True personal experience" with other cars does not transfer to each platform you buy, on some occasions it might however this one is not.

[muscles]

Also if you throw in a cam should see just under 220 hp

[Elemenohpee]

If their was a chip to run our car I would of done it waaay before this. I'm not tryna hate on you but the AEM F/iC is really the only thing we have. I took some vids of before tune and after tune pulls and you can tell a major difference. Maybe you haven't had the opportunity to mess with them like some of us have here, granted I have never attempted this chip no do I ever intend to.

[3CL1PS3]

zumspeed--if you hit 200 w/o cam id be really surprised. not saying you cant do it but your best bet would be to throw that in there. cant wait to see the numbers though since my f/ic will be arriving any day now.
oh and about the chip...did anyone else realize they advertise it usually cost $400 but they are willing to let it go for $70?...hahahahahahaha. how could it know what the car needs before it even learns your parameters for your mods..? you have to tune according to what you have added. so at best its a basic unchangeable map for the ecu but after you add cold air or exhaust or whatever, its useless. actually its useless before you even put it on....(and since when do we have a factory performance chip???)lol

[STL Eclipse 2011]

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

even 195 is a vast improvement over stock which is 140.thats what im shootin for as soon as rre gets off their ass lol

wait who is stock 140?

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by DustinH

Hmm..Bigger pistons, higher comp, GREAT tune, All the blot on crap you can find, Port and Polish head/intake..Bigger tb...Bigger valves....
Don't forget the performance chip...Id leave it in the package tho in the glove box...Works its best there.

nope, adds weight. The chip i mean. The rest is a tried and true idea

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by zumspeedsupra

PM me friday afternoon, I am getting my tune, and a dyno so I will be able to provide you with this answer. I am reallllyyy curious myself. I have CAI, headers, straight pipe, HKS can, under drive pulley and the FIC. So itll give everyone something to shoot for.

do you have the gt tb?

[snakeeyes]

Originally Posted by STL Eclipse 2011

wait who is stock 140?

Dyno My Stock GS Spyder

[dejectedangle]

Does a bag of chips in my car count??

[stangcobra]

WOAH
a bag of chips is more than 1 chip
thatd be like a 200 horsepower gain!!!!111oneoneone

[eclipsetuner305]

Originally Posted by DustinH

Hmm..Bigger pistons, higher comp, GREAT tune, All the blot on crap you can find, Port and Polish head/intake..Bigger tb...Bigger valves....
Don't forget the performance chip...Id leave it in the package tho in the glove box...Works its best there.

Haha man thats some funny stuff about the performance chip but its so true. I remember when everybody was debating the jet chip about soldering there ecu or something like that. There is no performance chip that works for the 4g which sucks.

[1SLO4G]

Originally Posted by Steven

prob 220 max the thing about our eclipses is our performance chip constricts alot of our hp/torque so getting a new performance chip could add 20-30hp alone. Mine added 22 hp when i had my car as a gs. I did an engine swap. Here's where I bought mine, and I definitely say its worth it.
MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE GF Peformance Chip its only like 70.

YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID......

Are ECUs can't be chipped!! this isn't a Honda ecu!
and if you want to provide me wrong show me pics of you chipping the ecu with dyno graphics before and after!

[STL Eclipse 2011]

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

Dyno My Stock GS Spyder

is that to the wheels or the crank?

[snakeeyes]

Originally Posted by STL Eclipse 2011

is that to the wheels or the crank?

pretty sure thats at the wheels

[STL Eclipse 2011]

ok crank is 162 right

[Daxenth]

im SOL... i dont like chips... i like combos and stickers for my HP

[eclipsetuner305]

Steven if you actually got that chip to work props to you but that thing sounds to good to be true. But if you actually have that thing installed Id like to see a video of it working. I know alot of other cars work with chip tuning but or ecu still hasnt been chip tuned yet.