4B11T Swap? - Club4G Forum : Mitsubishi Eclipse 4G Forums - 2006-2012 Eclipse Authority

stangcobra · April 22nd, 2011, 08:23 PM

So I know engine swaps have been proposed in the past, but after not being stupid and using the search function I have come up with the idea that the 4b11t could be swapped into the 4g with very minimal trouble.
I would like to know what would need to be changed in order for me to put this engine in the car, or if it is even possible.

Chaos · April 27th, 2011, 07:32 PM

no

stangcobra · April 27th, 2011, 07:53 PM

Thats what I'd figured
carry on

bullet06 · April 27th, 2011, 07:59 PM

Weld in new motor mount and new rear suspension and ecu, wires full motor with turbo intercooler. Probably new frame for the bottom part of the front suspension. Plus anyother problems you run in to will need fixed. A good amount of custom work. Id go 4g63. If I was going to go through all the trouble but its your car.

stangcobra · April 27th, 2011, 08:25 PM

Ah see I had heard that 4g63 was the harder swap over 4b11t
how bad is the 4g63?

bullet06 · April 27th, 2011, 08:35 PM

Either engine will pretty much the same. The 4g63 has been out for around 20 years though so the after market is almost endless and proven not that the 4b11is bad. Real don't know to much about the 4d its still pretty new but gates 311 is doing good with it but he has a good amount of custom work that the 4g has already marketed. Plus rre has help put one in a eclipse the RA that never came out

stangcobra · April 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM

Hm...seems interesting.
Its really damn tempting just to pick up a dsm and just use that as my go fast car, keep my 4g as a daily driver. Its just been goddamn depressing lately knowing that I will never break 200whp unless I go totally all out on mods, and that its heavier than a fucking truck.

bullet06 · April 27th, 2011, 08:41 PM

Ya I hear ya that's why I got a 99 gsx an I have a GT with close to 300whp and piston and rods on the way for the GT.

stangcobra · April 27th, 2011, 08:46 PM

Out of curiosity what would I expect to pay for something like that 99 gsx?

bullet06 · April 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM

5 to 8k

titoares2004 · April 28th, 2011, 10:12 PM

i posted the pic of the ralliart eclipse because i have never seen it and got super excited but damn dont be depressed savve up your cash buy a reliable beater to get around and swap that shit(4g69) i regret selling mine i was gonna get the evo4 4g63t but i really wanted the evo8 and drive train. i wrote to modified mag to post the challenge to shops out there to do this swap so hopefully they publish it we'll see.

deprydation · April 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM

I believe the Ralliart Eclipse used an Evo 8 engine and drivetrain.

RRE basically took an evo and put Eclipse interior and body panels on it.

Slippercream · April 28th, 2011, 10:46 PM

Why not just look into a head swap?

STILL... look at upwards of 8k for the proper engine management, etc.

bullet06 · April 28th, 2011, 10:49 PM

Ya kind of that used are chassy and put the evo viii 4g63t and drive train. Plus a full on Carbon fiber kit with wheels to go with it. To bad it didn't come out. But honestly the 4g69 is a good motor git piston and rods do a awd conversion and add a turbo. Would be cheaper add you can get 500awhp. If you do it right a lancer did it. The 4b swap your talking about was problem on a lancer. That are farther a head in the 4g69. Atlest the last I've seen don't realy follow the motor being I have the 6g75.

April 22nd, 2011, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
stangcobra Has A Big Member Name: Jake Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cary NC Vehicle: 01 svt cobra Posts: 1,215 Rep Power: 3	4B11T Swap? So I know engine swaps have been proposed in the past, but after not being stupid and using the search function I have come up with the idea that the 4b11t could be swapped into the 4g with very minimal trouble. I would like to know what would need to be changed in order for me to put this engine in the car, or if it is even possible.

April 27th, 2011, 07:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
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April 27th, 2011, 07:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
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April 27th, 2011, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Weld in new motor mount and new rear suspension and ecu, wires full motor with turbo intercooler. Probably new frame for the bottom part of the front suspension. Plus anyother problems you run in to will need fixed. A good amount of custom work. Id go 4g63. If I was going to go through all the trouble but its your car. __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^] Last edited by bullet06; April 27th, 2011 at 08:04 PM.

April 27th, 2011, 08:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
stangcobra Has A Big Member Name: Jake Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cary NC Vehicle: 01 svt cobra Posts: 1,215 Rep Power: 3	Ah see I had heard that 4g63 was the harder swap over 4b11t how bad is the 4g63? __________________ http://stancerocks.tumblr.com/

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April 27th, 2011, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Either engine will pretty much the same. The 4g63 has been out for around 20 years though so the after market is almost endless and proven not that the 4b11is bad. Real don't know to much about the 4d its still pretty new but gates 311 is doing good with it but he has a good amount of custom work that the 4g has already marketed. Plus rre has help put one in a eclipse the RA that never came out __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^]

April 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
stangcobra Has A Big Member Name: Jake Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cary NC Vehicle: 01 svt cobra Posts: 1,215 Rep Power: 3	Hm...seems interesting. Its really damn tempting just to pick up a dsm and just use that as my go fast car, keep my 4g as a daily driver. Its just been goddamn depressing lately knowing that I will never break 200whp unless I go totally all out on mods, and that its heavier than a fucking truck. __________________ http://stancerocks.tumblr.com/

April 27th, 2011, 08:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Ya I hear ya that's why I got a 99 gsx an I have a GT with close to 300whp and piston and rods on the way for the GT. __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^]

April 27th, 2011, 08:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
stangcobra Has A Big Member Name: Jake Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cary NC Vehicle: 01 svt cobra Posts: 1,215 Rep Power: 3	Out of curiosity what would I expect to pay for something like that 99 gsx? __________________ http://stancerocks.tumblr.com/

April 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	5 to 8k __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^]

April 28th, 2011, 10:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
titoares2004 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Vehicle: 2007/mitsubishi/eclipseSE Posts: 30 Rep Power: 5	i posted the pic of the ralliart eclipse because i have never seen it and got super excited but damn dont be depressed savve up your cash buy a reliable beater to get around and swap that shit(4g69) i regret selling mine i was gonna get the evo4 4g63t but i really wanted the evo8 and drive train. i wrote to modified mag to post the challenge to shops out there to do this swap so hopefully they publish it we'll see. __________________ HKS Hi power exhaust tip, Short ram CAI, underglo lights, faceoff power acoustik 7002 head unit, 2 7" headrest tv's and playstation 2.

April 28th, 2011, 10:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
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April 28th, 2011, 10:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Ya kind of that used are chassy and put the evo viii 4g63t and drive train. Plus a full on Carbon fiber kit with wheels to go with it. To bad it didn't come out. But honestly the 4g69 is a good motor git piston and rods do a awd conversion and add a turbo. Would be cheaper add you can get 500awhp. If you do it right a lancer did it. The 4b swap your talking about was problem on a lancer. That are farther a head in the 4g69. Atlest the last I've seen don't realy follow the motor being I have the 6g75. __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^] Last edited by bullet06; April 28th, 2011 at 10:56 PM.

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