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Ralliartize It · May 16th, 2011, 07:50 AM

I've been painstakingly watching as 4G guys wait for RRE to release a new batch of headers. I've got an idea that may solve your problem.

The stock Lancer Ralliart is header is very very good and the same motor. And can be purchased for very cheap (less than $100).

Why not purchase that then get a custom DP made to accomomdate for the additional O2 sensors that you have?

Just a thought.

TyEclipse · May 16th, 2011, 10:01 AM

I do am a newbie on this headers thing... Some questions! :-)

Does that oem RA header fit our.car? What about the cats? Do you think that this may give us a considerable performance upgrade?

I am not actually looking for perdormance, but if there is something that can erase that P0431 and P0421 SES light from my dash, I want it!

Thanks!

lpSE251 · May 16th, 2011, 10:43 AM

man it's been a while since ive been on here. Anyways, all i have to say consider this. We share the same motor as the lancer, just non-turbo or awd

. The headers will fit, but for the cats, i would go full custom.If you go full custom the cats wont be a problem.

Daxenth · May 16th, 2011, 01:41 PM

possibly for same reasons the lancer IM wont be a direct swap to the 4g. its a novel idea and i think it should be looked into but. there has to be some catch you know?

DustinH · May 16th, 2011, 01:46 PM

Where could u find such a manifold

TwilsonD7 · May 16th, 2011, 01:56 PM

Just buy OBX...

choppertwo · May 16th, 2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralliartize It

I've been painstakingly watching as 4G guys wait for RRE to release a new batch of headers. I've got an idea that may solve your problem.

The stock Lancer Ralliart is header is very very good and the same motor. And can be purchased for very cheap (less than $100).

Why not purchase that then get a custom DP made to accomomdate for the additional O2 sensors that you have?

Just a thought.

Yea, and thats cool if it works and all, Man we've been waiting sooo long, I for one am sticking it out, Hey, sometimes lifes a bitch- Ha- CHOP-

muscles · May 16th, 2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choppertwo

Yea, and thats cool if it works and all, Man we've been waiting sooo long, I for one am sticking it out, Hey, sometimes lifes a bitch- Ha- CHOP-

Ralliartize It · May 16th, 2011, 02:37 PM

You never know until you try. If any one is in the Boston area I'd let you test fit on a spare manifold that I have.

Another point...if you get a manifold from the early RA's they are 4-2 design, manifolds from the later RA's are 4-1.

Ralliartize It · June 7th, 2011, 07:00 AM

My offer still stands. Anyone in the Boston area if you want to test fit an RA header let me know and you will have a free one available to you.

muscles · June 7th, 2011, 10:43 AM

someone should try this out. Be an interesting find if it does work.

2fast4u · June 22nd, 2011, 04:39 AM

Arent the heads different and thus the bolt pattern? Dont know, just honestly asking. And if not, hell the ra turbo system would be a fun bolton...

Ralliartize It · June 23rd, 2011, 05:40 AM

I do not know for sure.

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 06:32 AM

I'll bump this up as my offer still stands. Someone try this before winter rolls around!

Xero · August 30th, 2011, 07:48 AM

Can you post up a picture of the mounting surface? That may give us an instant way of seeing if it will fit. If it looks completely different, we can say no right away.

joeyb · August 30th, 2011, 09:10 AM

^wait, are you guys talking about the headers (exhaust manifold) or the intake manifold?

sounds like something worth trying for sure - for $100 it shouldn't be TOO big of a risk....

of course going 'full custom' would be great but you are looking at a much larger chunk of change if you do that

Chris05 · August 30th, 2011, 11:28 AM

Never thought of this! I see a stock lancer ralliart every day at school! I'll try to befriend him and take his headers :O

OrangeDemon · August 30th, 2011, 11:44 AM

Is the waiting list only for the gs? I haven't seen anything about the rre gt headers.

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jarhead0321usmc · August 30th, 2011, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris05

Never thought of this! I see a stock lancer ralliart every day at school! I'll try to befriend him and take his headers :O

Lmao hi my name is _____ I would like to be your friend, in exchange for my friendship I request your headers

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 12:35 PM

I'll take a picture of the mounting surface for the exhaust header. I think it'd be a good mod.

Between the other 4G69 models (outalnder and galant), there's an abundance of these headers available.

Chris05 · August 30th, 2011, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarhead0321usmc

Lmao hi my name is _____ I would like to be your friend, in exchange for my friendship I request your headers

Never know till you try! haha

Xero · August 30th, 2011, 01:43 PM

So, I have been doing a little research on this and Ralliartiz It may be on to something. The mating flange looks nearly identical. Now, we need a guinea pig. From the pics, it looks like a match.

jarhead0321usmc · August 30th, 2011, 02:52 PM

Someone do this, I wonder if we can expect the same gains, like from the Rre or ripp headers, if I didnt already have my headers on I'd think about trying it

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 03:48 PM

I made 150whp/150wtq on an AWD Dyno Dynamics using the stock header....stock WRXs make the same power on this particular dyno....I'd say it's good enough.

My dyno sheets are on EvoM (same user name)

nokiauser · August 30th, 2011, 05:22 PM

Don't tell me the Ralliart exhaust headers give about the same gains as the Ripps LT headers. lol. I just bought those from you.

FeaRlezZ · August 30th, 2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralliartize It

You never know until you try. If any one is in the Boston area I'd let you test fit on a spare manifold that I have.

Another point...if you get a manifold from the early RA's they are 4-2 design, manifolds from the later RA's are 4-1.

im in boston. . i have the rre headers but i wouldnt mind checking it out

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiauser

Don't tell me the Ralliart exhaust headers give about the same gains as the Ripps LT headers. lol. I just bought those from you.

They most certainly don't, especially when it comes to top end power. Getting the Lancer RA header to fit would be a custom job, but for those who don't want to wait for the RRE shorty header this may be a good alternative.

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

im in boston. . i have the rre headers but i wouldnt mind checking it out

Do you have your stock GS header still? That would be an easy comparison in regards to mounting surface. I'm out in Somerville and am around for the long weekend.

FeaRlezZ · August 30th, 2011, 09:19 PM

ya i have the stockers. i actually work at the advance auto in somerville. . im off until sunday if u want me to come by

Ralliartize It · August 30th, 2011, 09:27 PM

Do you live in Somerville as well?

joeyb · August 30th, 2011, 09:29 PM

can we be friends? can I have your headers?

FeaRlezZ · August 30th, 2011, 09:30 PM

i live in revere

jarhead0321usmc · August 30th, 2011, 09:44 PM

That a boy joey, throw out the invite

but only if he gives you the headers

FeaRlezZ · August 30th, 2011, 09:51 PM

imma send my rre heads in soon to b jet coated...its gonna b mad weird with stocks lol

Kazyx · August 30th, 2011, 10:13 PM

Come down to Florida and you can try to toss Lancer headers on my Eclipse

FuryMiloh · August 30th, 2011, 10:55 PM

subscribed i already have a shop who will hook me up with an exhaust job, this would be dope if it works

Ralliartize It · August 31st, 2011, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

i live in revere

How about you bring the OEM header with you on Sunday to work? I won't be able to make it to Revere anytime this week. In fact I was in advanced auto last week so you probably saw me

FeaRlezZ · August 31st, 2011, 09:01 AM

^ idk if i work sunday but i will let u kno and if not i can still meet u there. . u want to pm me a contact #

and if u saw my eclipse parked by the side of the building then ya i wuz there

Ralliartize It · August 31st, 2011, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

^ idk if i work sunday but i will let u kno and if not i can still meet u there. . u want to pm me a contact #

and if u saw my eclipse parked by the side of the building then ya i wuz there

I def saw the Eclipse there, in between my trips to Target and AAP.

I'll PM you now.

Ralliartize It · September 9th, 2011, 06:29 PM

Meeting up with fearlezz tomorrow.

May 16th, 2011, 07:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	Alternative to RRE Headers...non-newb assessment I've been painstakingly watching as 4G guys wait for RRE to release a new batch of headers. I've got an idea that may solve your problem. The stock Lancer Ralliart is header is very very good and the same motor. And can be purchased for very cheap (less than $100). Why not purchase that then get a custom DP made to accomomdate for the additional O2 sensors that you have? Just a thought.

May 16th, 2011, 10:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
TyEclipse Miembro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Juana Diaz, Puerto Rico Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GS Posts: 464 Rep Power: 6	I do am a newbie on this headers thing... Some questions! :-) Does that oem RA header fit our.car? What about the cats? Do you think that this may give us a considerable performance upgrade? I am not actually looking for perdormance, but if there is something that can erase that P0431 and P0421 SES light from my dash, I want it! Thanks! __________________

May 16th, 2011, 10:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
lpSE251 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Vehicle: 08/eclipse/se Posts: 251 Rep Power: 2	man it's been a while since ive been on here. Anyways, all i have to say consider this. We share the same motor as the lancer, just non-turbo or awd. The headers will fit, but for the cats, i would go full custom.If you go full custom the cats wont be a problem. __________________ We are not criminals! Just let us drive! no mods, RUNNING ON DRIVING SPIRIT

May 16th, 2011, 01:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
DustinH Amarillo 4g Name: Dustin Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Amarillo Tx Posts: 2,026 Rep Power: 5	Where could u find such a manifold __________________ You've got questions, We have answers -->http://club4g.org/board/search.php

May 16th, 2011, 02:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	You never know until you try. If any one is in the Boston area I'd let you test fit on a spare manifold that I have. Another point...if you get a manifold from the early RA's they are 4-2 design, manifolds from the later RA's are 4-1. Last edited by Ralliartize It; May 16th, 2011 at 02:39 PM.

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TwilsonD7 Senior Member Name: Thomas Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fl Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/GT Posts: 4,176 Rep Power: 10	Just buy OBX...

June 7th, 2011, 07:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	My offer still stands. Anyone in the Boston area if you want to test fit an RA header let me know and you will have a free one available to you.

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muscles Black Irish Name: Ross Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south carolina Vehicle: 2006/eclipse/gs Posts: 3,222 Rep Power: 6	someone should try this out. Be an interesting find if it does work. __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...cles-whip.html. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/391606...hback-coupe-3d

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2fast4u Senior Member Name: Dan Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sugartown, ar/ sluttgart Vehicle: Sporty eclipse gs Posts: 378 Rep Power: 2	Arent the heads different and thus the bolt pattern? Dont know, just honestly asking. And if not, hell the ra turbo system would be a fun bolton...

June 23rd, 2011, 05:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	I do not know for sure.

August 30th, 2011, 06:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	I'll bump this up as my offer still stands. Someone try this before winter rolls around!

August 30th, 2011, 07:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Xero Elitist Prick Name: Jason Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cincinnati Vehicle: 2011/Eclipse GS Posts: 1,234 Rep Power: 3	Can you post up a picture of the mounting surface? That may give us an instant way of seeing if it will fit. If it looks completely different, we can say no right away. __________________ RRE UPD, Custom Exhaust, CAI, AEM F/IC, Ralco Short Shifter, Eibach Rear Sway, Big Cock

August 30th, 2011, 09:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,236 Rep Power: 14	^wait, are you guys talking about the headers (exhaust manifold) or the intake manifold? sounds like something worth trying for sure - for $100 it shouldn't be TOO big of a risk.... of course going 'full custom' would be great but you are looking at a much larger chunk of change if you do that __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

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OrangeDemon Two Tone is new age Name: Jason Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Medina, Ohio Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT-N Posts: 2,658 Rep Power: 4	Is the waiting list only for the gs? I haven't seen anything about the rre gt headers. Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...ons-06-gt.html

August 30th, 2011, 12:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	I'll take a picture of the mounting surface for the exhaust header. I think it'd be a good mod. Between the other 4G69 models (outalnder and galant), there's an abundance of these headers available.

August 30th, 2011, 01:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
Xero Elitist Prick Name: Jason Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cincinnati Vehicle: 2011/Eclipse GS Posts: 1,234 Rep Power: 3	So, I have been doing a little research on this and Ralliartiz It may be on to something. The mating flange looks nearly identical. Now, we need a guinea pig. From the pics, it looks like a match. __________________ RRE UPD, Custom Exhaust, CAI, AEM F/IC, Ralco Short Shifter, Eibach Rear Sway, Big Cock

August 30th, 2011, 02:52 PM	#23 (permalink)
jarhead0321usmc Celer, Silens, Mortalis Name: Rob Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maine Vehicle: 2006 GT Posts: 1,038 Rep Power: 3	Someone do this, I wonder if we can expect the same gains, like from the Rre or ripp headers, if I didnt already have my headers on I'd think about trying it __________________ "If you teabag someone with a nut allergy is that attempted murder?" -J Chris Newberg

August 30th, 2011, 03:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	I made 150whp/150wtq on an AWD Dyno Dynamics using the stock header....stock WRXs make the same power on this particular dyno....I'd say it's good enough. My dyno sheets are on EvoM (same user name)

August 30th, 2011, 05:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
nokiauser Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Vehicle: Eclipse GS 5 Speed Posts: 646 Rep Power: 1	Don't tell me the Ralliart exhaust headers give about the same gains as the Ripps LT headers. lol. I just bought those from you.

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,989 Rep Power: 4	ya i have the stockers. i actually work at the advance auto in somerville. . im off until sunday if u want me to come by __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

August 30th, 2011, 09:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	Do you live in Somerville as well?

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joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,236 Rep Power: 14	can we be friends? can I have your headers? __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,989 Rep Power: 4	i live in revere __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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jarhead0321usmc Celer, Silens, Mortalis Name: Rob Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maine Vehicle: 2006 GT Posts: 1,038 Rep Power: 3	That a boy joey, throw out the invite but only if he gives you the headers __________________ "If you teabag someone with a nut allergy is that attempted murder?" -J Chris Newberg

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,989 Rep Power: 4	imma send my rre heads in soon to b jet coated...its gonna b mad weird with stocks lol __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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Kazyx Go Vols Name: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse SE Posts: 91 Rep Power: 1	Come down to Florida and you can try to toss Lancer headers on my Eclipse

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FuryMiloh Liquid Latex Name: Myles Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS Posts: 2,875 Rep Power: 25	subscribed i already have a shop who will hook me up with an exhaust job, this would be dope if it works __________________ Mods : I have some. Future Mods : I want some. Uninstalled Mods laying around : I wish. Newest Mod : Ricos super awesome LED Fog Bezels M/T all day, errday.

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,989 Rep Power: 4	^ idk if i work sunday but i will let u kno and if not i can still meet u there. . u want to pm me a contact # and if u saw my eclipse parked by the side of the building then ya i wuz there __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted Last edited by FeaRlezZ; August 31st, 2011 at 09:15 AM.

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Ralliartize It Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Boston, Ma Vehicle: 04 Lancer RA Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	Meeting up with fearlezz tomorrow.

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