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Old September 27th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys I got a dumb one for ya. I know it's okay to use premium for the V6. BUT is it good to use premium as opposed to regular gas on the 4 cyl 4g.
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Old September 27th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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everytime you fill up with regular, check the difference in price with premium... sum it up, put it in a jar, and send it to me at the end of the year... that will have the same effect on your engine...
what i'm trying to say is, your GS is tuned for regular, premium is a waste of money...
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Old September 27th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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haha thanks guys I appreciate it.
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GT people should be using premium tho. Yeah it is more expensive initially, but our engines are high compression and require the higher octane so that you dont have "knocking" or "pinging". You are actually getting worse mpg if you use regular in a premium car as well because you are burning through your fuel that much faster.
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yes. should have clarified for future search users...
it's not "okay" to use premium in the GT, you HAVE TO use premium in the GT...

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everytime you fill up with regular, check the difference in price with premium... sum it up, put it in a jar, and send it to me at the end of the year... that will have the same effect on your engine...
what i'm trying to say is, your GS is tuned for regular, premium is a waste of money...
Umm that's not true buddy idk if you've ridden in a gs and compare but there's a considerable amount of difference in the responsiveness of the car not to mention cleaning your internals with better quality fuel..

How about you run your car til the light comes on and fill up with premium and fill your car car up 3 more times and if you can't feel a difference go back to reg? Cause I've tried both and I choose premium bc we need all the help we can get
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yes. should have clarified for future search users...
it's not "okay" to use premium in the GT, you HAVE TO use premium in the GT...

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Umm that's not true buddy idk if you've ridden in a gs and compare but there's a considerable amount of difference in the responsiveness of the car not to mention cleaning your internals with better quality fuel..

How about you run your car til the light comes on and fill up with premium and fill your car car up 3 more times and if you can't feel a difference go back to reg? Cause I've tried both and I choose premium bc we need all the help we can get
okay man thanks so much I believe you and will start using that. anything for more responsiveness and get go. My buddy drives a camaro and i need every thing i can get to keep him in sight. ugh
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. Only reason I continually pump premium is because never know when i might end up using the bottle.
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premium WILL keep your engine cleaner though, right fellas? so if you want your engine as clean as physically possible, then premium is the way to go.
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Ha wish we actually had facts proving whether or not premium is a must for the 2.4l. Either way I use premium like what joey said keep my engine cleaner as well I could feel a difference in driving.
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I've always believed that premium just burns better. In a 4cyl I would think it would run a bit better than regular
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. Only reason I continually pump premium is because never know when i might end up using the bottle.
This was my old excuse for the wife , now I have the reflash and I HAVE to put premium... I'd like to put some race gas in and take a spirited drive , I haven't done it in years
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Dyno your car with premium and then with 87. You will find no difference. Your feelings of improved performance are purely psychosomatic.
Higher octane has lower combustibility. That is all. Unless you are spraying or boosting a 4-cyl, you are wasting your money.
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ok all this debate over regular or premium is a waste of time. the ONLY difference between the 2 is the octane rating and the fact that premium gas requires more heat input before it will ignite.

ONLY if ur manual calls for premium or if u do hear knocking (which u should not) then u can bump up a grade or go premium. like pat and xero said ur just wasting money. and no it does NOT keep ur engine cleaner. the index of premium gas is identical to regular. yes there r additive detergents but not nearly enough to make a difference.

and a True fact, if a car does not call for premium then in some cases depending on compression there will not b enough generated pressure and heat required to fully burn the fuel which can actually lead to extra deposits on the cylinders, valves and such
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my car see's nothing but 89 all day everyday.if you're stock,then yea,run 87 till the cows come home
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ok all this debate over regular or premium is a waste of time. the ONLY difference between the 2 is the octane rating and the fact that premium gas requires more heat input before it will ignite.

ONLY if ur manual calls for premium or if u do hear knocking (which u should not) then u can bump up a grade or go premium. like pat and xero said ur just wasting money. and no it does NOT keep ur engine cleaner. the index of premium gas is identical to regular. yes there r additive detergents but not nearly enough to make a difference.

and a True fact, if a car does not call for premium then in some cases depending on compression there will not b enough generated pressure and heat required to fully burn the fuel which can actually lead to extra deposits on the cylinders, valves and such
Good info but from experience I could tell a difference and everybody else noticed too so imma stick with 93
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hmmm....so we have guys saying it doesn't keep your engine cleaner. that is just not what I have heard. I read an article on the quality of gas of different brands leaving behind sludge and what not. the shell v-power is suppose to be among the cleanest and over years I'm sure it must make some difference. maybe not much, but some. I guess I could be wrong but I have certainly read and heard compelling arguments that it does help fight build-up and grime inside the valves and engine. makes sense to me.
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^BRANDS being the keyword, here, not octane ratings.

I had a friend of mine with a Cavalier. He put a 3" exhaust on it and swore that it was HUGELY faster. He ran a full second slower in the quarter mile with the new exhaust.

Trust me. A car designed to run on 87 runs better on 87. I will bet $100 that you will see no real dyno gains from higher octane.
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I'm a full Bolton gs with no tune and I have lost gas mileage and I started to put 93 and I have regaine some gas mileage from it
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all gasolines have detergents because there is an environmental standard. yes premium has more but like i said it is nowhere near enough to make a difference. if u really wanted u could go buy a detergent additive and help clean any build up (if much at all). that still saves u much more money. im sorry to say but it is all in ur head when it comes to the car "feeling better" . it has been tested plenty of times and the only time u will see performance changes is with a vehicle that calls for premium and responds properly only to premium. if ur car calls for regular then that is all u need ( unless u have done work to ur car to change compression )
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Higher octane will give more hp... Look at the cars on YouTube on the dyno they do 87 all the way to 110 and there are 50 hp gains between the two... Maybe from 89-93 you won't know the difference but there is...
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Higher octane will give more hp... Look at the cars on YouTube on the dyno they do 87 all the way to 110 and there are 50 hp gains between the two... Maybe from 89-93 you won't know the difference but there is...
thats why i said,...bunch of suckers lol
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octane only has to do with ping depending on compression. higher octane has anti knock compounds to reduce temperature of fuel as it burns.

high compression engines will benefit.

unless the knock sensor is retarding ignition timing then idk wut would give more power
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Higher octane will give more hp... Look at the cars on YouTube on the dyno they do 87 all the way to 110 and there are 50 hp gains between the two... Maybe from 89-93 you won't know the difference but there is...
wutever car wuz used wuz clearly under extremely high compression (probably a competition vehicle) because 110 is high for pretty much any stock and most modded vehicles.

edit: u would probably lose power on any stock car running 110
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Deff 110 is too much but it proves you receive gains with higher octane... But overall you won't feel a difference from one grade up... And the main use for higher octane is for what you stated b4 fear!!!!! I always wanted to try 87 in my car now I'm running low compression...
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^ yes i kno wut ur sayin dejected and its true for "competition status vehicles" and even tuning can help more. but i wuz just getting the point across to all these guys on here running stock or bolt-on. theres nothing to gain and it is not gonna keep ur engine cleaner. atleast nowhere near clean enough to waste money on.

but if they still want to buy premium then thats fine it wont hurt, theres just no need
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^ ya i agree but when it comes to mobile, shell, sonoco, etc there r EPA standards that need to b followed for gasoline and additives so there is not much difference
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as a side note-make sure you check the pumps to make sure they pass calibration tests and that the pumps give the right amount and octane.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old September 28th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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What's 15 cents more regular down here where I live is 3.45 and premium is 3.55 or 3.60 so not that big of a diffrence in price proformance i see the diffrence
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Premium in a regular rated vehicle is a waste. Im in the autofield and am a mechanic for a living. You got nothing from running premium. And actually you dont have to run premium in a vehicleunless it says required. A lot of cars like porche and bens say recommend premium but dont have to use it. They recommend it because when they built the engine to get the specs and hp advertised you need premium. But running regular through a car that only reccomends premium has no effect except a lil loss in performance. Not to mention think about porche and bens ship cars to arears that dont offer premium therefor the car must run on regular. They surely wont redisgn a engine just for one location thats not cost effective.. So the only real time you must run premium is when the cars states required. This is why we have computers and knock sensors whenypu run regular the computer will change the timing to compensate. Running premium in a rehular vehicle does nothing.
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Sorry about the mispella hard to type with my phone. Also if anyone would like I can add links supporting my theory for proof
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