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Kingjames359 · October 2nd, 2011, 06:55 AM

So i read some ware that the evo rods fit 2.4l gs if this is true does any one know what year fits/bolt on. ??

bullet06 · October 2nd, 2011, 11:16 AM

Any evo 8-9 models not the x just make sure there for the 4g63 and not the 4b11 and You'll be fine.

akley88 · October 2nd, 2011, 11:25 AM

yeah 4g63 rods are what you want.

dsm2mivec · October 2nd, 2011, 12:19 PM

But only get the evo 4g63 rods bc I ordered 4g63 head studs and they were for a 1g dsm and it's what digit off in the part number and they were too big

Lanzerralliart · October 2nd, 2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dsm2mivec

But only get the evo 4g63 rods bc I ordered 4g63 head studs and they were for a 1g dsm and it's what digit off in the part number and they were too big

the head studs, mains, and bearings will fit you just need to get them for a 7bolt 4g63

akley88 · October 2nd, 2011, 12:31 PM

yeah i picked up head and main studs for a 7bolt.
heres this is over on evolutionm's site

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The only thing I don't like about the 4G69 is that the block height is 6mm shorter than the 4G64. This brings the block height back to the same as the EVO 4G63. The 4G69 uses the same length rods as the EVO with a longer stroke of 100mm. EVO pistons, even forged ones can be used in the 4G69. However, these pistons need to be 87mm. That's the only downside. The solution is to get stroker pistons for the EVO in 87mm. 87mm pistons for an EVO, however, are not easily sourced. They more than likely would have to be made custom by JE, Wiseco, Arias, etc.

4G69 uses 4G63 rod and crank bearings (old news)
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve guides and seals
4G69 uses the EVO timing belt tensioner which is aluminum, not cast iron
4G69 intake valve = 34mm (4G63 EVO = 34mm) May fit?
4G69 exhaust valve = 30.55mm (4G63 EVO = 30.5mm) May fit?
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve spring retainers
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 head bolts (can use 4G63 ARP head studs )
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 main bolts (can use 4G63 ARP main studs )
4G69 uses 4G63 EVO balance shafts (can use 4G63 EVO BS eliminator kit )

Nothing spectacular, I know. Every little bit helps though. Here's a good read on how Mitsubishi took a 4G64, modified it and called it a 4G69: Article (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/253444.html). Lightened rods, lightened crank, lightened crank pulley, larger valves, shorter block height and other goodies. They did a very nice job and came out with a very nice engine.

I Know that Eagle just released a 100mm stroker kit for the Evo/ Eclipse. Something you might want to look into.

229boss · October 2nd, 2011, 12:37 PM

what does this mod do exactly?

akley88 · October 2nd, 2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 229boss

what does this mod do exactly?

what the rods. it beefs up the engine for boost, nitrous, or what else someone has planned.

Kingjames359 · October 2nd, 2011, 10:32 PM

ok im gana try to find some thanks for the info if i can get my money right im gana try to buy that psi kit and evo rods with wisco pistons from rre or coustm pistons from ross. im also trying to buy new 1mm over valve rods . springs etc

Kingjames359 · October 3rd, 2011, 12:58 AM

What ratio should i look for ?
Found on ebay http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=66000366350

akley88 · October 3rd, 2011, 01:47 AM

you can get pistons for the 4g69 cheaper through import performance parts then rre

chowetime · October 5th, 2011, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingjames359

What ratio should i look for ?
Found on ebay http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=66000366350

That is a great buy as the add reads as though you are going to be getting rods pistons headbolts gaskets...

akley88 · October 5th, 2011, 06:07 AM

evo pistons will not work unless the whole setup is for a 100mm stroke i believe

dsm2mivec · October 5th, 2011, 07:20 AM

I thought they just had to be stroker pistons 87mm

Lanzerralliart · October 5th, 2011, 08:46 AM

kingjames do some more research before you think about just throwing money into the car , not half of what your saying is needed for a dd 4g69, and the $ to hp gain ratio is something to consider unless your rollin in the dough.

87mm evo pistons will work

akley88 · October 5th, 2011, 09:32 AM

wiseco makes 4g69 forged pistons. a set costs 479 with out rings

Kingjames359 · October 16th, 2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanzerralliart

kingjames do some more research before you think about just throwing money into the car , not half of what your saying is needed for a dd 4g69, and the $ to hp gain ratio is something to consider unless your rollin in the dough.

87mm evo pistons will work

I have and still learning but the $ to hp ratio is ok to me with psi turbo kit upgraded internals ill be rollin good. I plan to keep this car till it drops like a old indian mans truck.

So that set i have posted will work?

Kingjames359 · October 19th, 2011, 04:37 AM

Bump

Lanzerralliart · October 20th, 2011, 11:49 AM

It looks like it will work but dropping your cr from 9.5:1 to 8.5:1 will kill your car without a tune for it, It will be good for a higher hp turbo build.

Kingjames359 · November 4th, 2011, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzerralliart

It looks like it will work but dropping your cr from 9.5:1 to 8.5:1 will kill your car without a tune for it, It will be good for a higher hp turbo build.

How about this kit you seem to know a lot so thank for ya help

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=24917661917

Kingjames359 · November 5th, 2011, 01:45 AM

bump

Animefreak1983 · January 22nd, 2012, 11:03 AM

Will they work on a GT as well?
An is it worth doing on one?

dsm2mivec · January 22nd, 2012, 11:04 AM

I would say no.. I think it's just i4

Kingjames359 · January 22nd, 2012, 12:22 PM

Its well worth building internals if plan on boost or fi of some kind.

akley88 · January 22nd, 2012, 12:43 PM

i have those rods, and arp cylinder head and main studs for sale

CrAnSwIcK · January 22nd, 2012, 12:57 PM

i wonder if 6-bolt 4G63 rods will fit, appearently they are stronger than their 7-bolt counterparts...

akley88 · January 22nd, 2012, 01:03 PM

from what i read on evom the 4g69 needs to use the 7 bolt. the manley h beams that i have are rated to 700bhp. which is more then anyone on here has made

dsm2mivec · January 22nd, 2012, 01:47 PM

No I know from experience that it has to be 7 bolt

October 2nd, 2011, 06:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	Evo rods? So i read some ware that the evo rods fit 2.4l gs if this is true does any one know what year fits/bolt on. ?? __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

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bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Any evo 8-9 models not the x just make sure there for the 4g63 and not the 4b11 and You'll be fine. __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^]

October 2nd, 2011, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	yeah 4g63 rods are what you want. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	ok im gana try to find some thanks for the info if i can get my money right im gana try to buy that psi kit and evo rods with wisco pistons from rre or coustm pistons from ross. im also trying to buy new 1mm over valve rods . springs etc __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

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Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	What ratio should i look for ? Found on ebay http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=66000366350 __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

October 3rd, 2011, 01:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	you can get pistons for the 4g69 cheaper through import performance parts then rre __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

October 5th, 2011, 06:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	evo pistons will not work unless the whole setup is for a 100mm stroke i believe __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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dsm2mivec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Vehicle: 06 Mitsu Eclipse GS Posts: 1,223 Rep Power: 3	I thought they just had to be stroker pistons 87mm __________________

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Lanzerralliart 4G69er Name: Daniel Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where the only team in the NFL that had a perfect season resides... Vehicle: CS7A Posts: 2,126 Rep Power: 5	kingjames do some more research before you think about just throwing money into the car , not half of what your saying is needed for a dd 4g69, and the $ to hp gain ratio is something to consider unless your rollin in the dough. 87mm evo pistons will work __________________ RIP SILVERSIDE you'll be immortalized with your accomplishments...The all new 2009 2002 Eclipse - Equipped with 265-horsepower MIVEC V6 - First in the world!

October 5th, 2011, 09:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	wiseco makes 4g69 forged pistons. a set costs 479 with out rings __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	Bump __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

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Lanzerralliart 4G69er Name: Daniel Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where the only team in the NFL that had a perfect season resides... Vehicle: CS7A Posts: 2,126 Rep Power: 5	It looks like it will work but dropping your cr from 9.5:1 to 8.5:1 will kill your car without a tune for it, It will be good for a higher hp turbo build. __________________ RIP SILVERSIDE you'll be immortalized with your accomplishments...The all new 2009 2002 Eclipse - Equipped with 265-horsepower MIVEC V6 - First in the world!

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Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	bump __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

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Kingjames359 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: EaSt VaLlEy ArIzoNa Vehicle: 2007 eclipse se 2.4l Posts: 359 Rep Power: 1	Its well worth building internals if plan on boost or fi of some kind. __________________ Magnaflow catback 2.50 , GT tb (thermal spacer), Injen sri, RRe headers (jet hot coated),RRe underdrive pulley, cf/gunmetal oil cap, pulstar sparkplugs, ss brake lines, pro-kit drop, Halo projectors, projector eyelids, 6000k hid,Led taillights, Disabled DRL, Oem fogs blacked out, 5% Tint, debadged, 18x8 matte black Rohana rims, Falken 912 tires.

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akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	i have those rods, and arp cylinder head and main studs for sale __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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CrAnSwIcK Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Vehicle: 2006 Lancer Ralliart Posts: 333 Rep Power: 1	i wonder if 6-bolt 4G63 rods will fit, appearently they are stronger than their 7-bolt counterparts...

January 22nd, 2012, 01:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,637 Rep Power: 7	from what i read on evom the 4g69 needs to use the 7 bolt. the manley h beams that i have are rated to 700bhp. which is more then anyone on here has made __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

January 22nd, 2012, 01:47 PM	#28 (permalink)
dsm2mivec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Vehicle: 06 Mitsu Eclipse GS Posts: 1,223 Rep Power: 3	No I know from experience that it has to be 7 bolt __________________

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