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Simba6 · November 26th, 2011, 06:57 PM

Hello, I want to know if AEM Water/Alcohol Injection Kits will only add power to a turbo engine or will it also benifit your vehicle if its N/A?

horse-eater · November 26th, 2011, 07:31 PM

Water meth doesn't add any hp. Essentially what it does is lowers the temps in the cylinder allowing for higher boost, more no2, higher compression or more advanced timing, those are where the power comes from. The meth just makes it safe to do those things.

Simba6 · November 26th, 2011, 07:56 PM

ahh ok, i was trying to research precisely what that did and all info i found assumed you already knew the basics. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

horse-eater · November 26th, 2011, 08:41 PM

honestly man, if you want a bolt up easy few HP, look into doing the basic bolt ons i/h/e and slap some nitrous on.

there are a few GS guys that can give you moer info than you need about it. I know the GT guys arent even tuning the car with nitrous on.

joeyb · November 26th, 2011, 10:30 PM

yeah, and to add onto what Carl is telling you - what DOES help is getting the AEM F/IC and leaning out your fuel mix. Some guys have seen as much as 15 - 20 hp increase if not more.
the meth kit is really for F-I set-ups (turbos, superchargers)

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 03:33 PM

Joey, can you give me a link that explains the AEM F/IC in more detail and what you mean by leaning out the fuel mix? I would love an extra 20 hp.

Steveo · November 28th, 2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by horse-eater

honestly man, if you want a bolt up easy few HP, look into doing the basic bolt ons i/h/e and slap some nitrous on.

there are a few GS guys that can give you moer info than you need about it. I know the GT guys arent even tuning the car with nitrous on.

Hell if I'm not tuning on nitrous! I won't touch it until I am fully tuned..we were getting a shitty a/f ratio when tuning before and that's why I had to throw the walbro 255 pump in there. I do not know how other nitrous guys are running untuned..my tuner must be a safe one, I have been changing every single thing before getting new pistons to assure I don't blow up.

FeaRlezZ · November 28th, 2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Simba6

Joey, can you give me a link that explains the AEM F/IC in more detail and what you mean by leaning out the fuel mix? I would love an extra 20 hp.

wut mods do u currently have

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 05:12 PM

Right now just the fujita intake and the straight pipe exhaust, im thinking of getting the RRE header and the underdrive pulley but also looking into minor things I can do to get the extra hp without having to drop 2.5k for a turbo kit.

FeaRlezZ · November 28th, 2011, 05:35 PM

well u can pull extra power even stock but i will tell u right now i have headers, cai, pulley, gt tb, thermo spacers, header back 2.5" exhaust, high flow cat, aero muffler.

i have a dyno running stock showing that i actually lost some power without tuning. but the tune can pull the full power out of the mods and more while safely leaning it out.

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 05:45 PM

Ok first, can you give me a link to the high flow cat you have? ive been contemplating the header idea for a few weeks now but i would still like to pass smog but i didnt know there were any high flow cats out for this car. Also, what your telling me is I should get this ignition controller once i start getting the mods? Lastly, wtf does leaning the fuel out mean! i need a wiki article or something to read lol.

pat_08GT_Spyder · November 28th, 2011, 05:51 PM

all you need to do is look up "AEM F/IC" or "BrianJ" on here, and it will tell you everything you need to know about "leaning out" !!! go to the Tuning and Electronics section here and start reading !!
High flow cat, just get a generic one (Magnaflow for example), i believe the GS piping is 2.25".

FeaRlezZ · November 28th, 2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Simba6

Ok first, can you give me a link to the high flow cat you have? ive been contemplating the header idea for a few weeks now but i would still like to pass smog but i didnt know there were any high flow cats out for this car. Also, what your telling me is I should get this ignition controller once i start getting the mods? Lastly, wtf does leaning the fuel out mean! i need a wiki article or something to read lol.

dont kno where ur located but i pass no problem.

as for the high flow cat, just go to the magnaflow website and find any 2.25" in/out cat or one like this -> Magnaflow 53005 Universal Catalytic Converter Round 2.25" In/Out | eBay

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 05:59 PM

Domo Arigato my friends and im in california

FeaRlezZ · November 28th, 2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Simba6

Domo Arigato my friends and im in california

ur fukd lol

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 06:14 PM

haha well id be pushing it no matter what mod i get but to blatantly get a header that takes away my cat would make it too easy for a cop to pull me over and test my exhaust and give me a ticket. At least if i have the high flow cat hes going to have to really know his shit to fuck with me.

FeaRlezZ · November 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simba6

haha well id be pushing it no matter what mod i get but to blatantly get a header that takes away my cat would make it too easy for a cop to pull me over and test my exhaust and give me a ticket. At least if i have the high flow cat hes going to have to really know his shit to fuck with me.

actually ur front cats r more important to inspectors but i would still mod anyways. im sure there is a place that would pass u and if not u can just toss the stock headers back on.

and thats just crazy that they can pull u over and test ur emissions right on the spot

TheFootOfGod · November 28th, 2011, 06:23 PM

yeah thats crazy. damn melodrama california REPs. everything has to be rainbows and flowers in cali, meanwhile their forest fires are burning down all the pot....

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 06:25 PM

yup modding your car in cali is tricky and you sorta have to have a "fuck it ill end up paying for a ticket anyways but im still gonna mod this shit f the police" attitude haha

pat_08GT_Spyder · November 28th, 2011, 06:30 PM

you cant have the sun, beaches, beatches and mod your car... you gotta choose...
up here we got long winters, chicks are all bundled up so you cant tell if they're hot or not but you can do whatever the f*** you want to your ride and nobody seems to care

Simba6 · November 28th, 2011, 06:35 PM

lol you can have it all if your a rebel like Kevin

bullet06 · November 28th, 2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pat_08GT_Spyder

you cant have the sun, beaches, beatches and mod your car... you gotta choose...
up here we got long winters, chicks are all bundled up so you cant tell if they're hot or not but you can do whatever the f*** you want to your ride and nobody seems to care

Come to Florida we got all that and we can do anything to are cars aswell.

pat_08GT_Spyder · November 28th, 2011, 08:08 PM

haha, well that sounds like a nice place then !!! oh, did i mention we've got oil (=$$) up here?

back where i'm from, you technically cant change ANYTHING on your car... rims, licence plate style, nothing... everything is illegal

not here !!!!

bullet06 · November 28th, 2011, 08:15 PM

Oil money? Ya its alrigh man everything else is illegal so I guess it works out.

Steveo · November 29th, 2011, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bullet06

Come to Florida we got all that and we can do anything to are cars aswell.

Yup

November 26th, 2011, 06:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	Will AEM benifit a N/A vehicle? Hello, I want to know if AEM Water/Alcohol Injection Kits will only add power to a turbo engine or will it also benifit your vehicle if its N/A?

November 26th, 2011, 07:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
horse-eater The O.G. Join Date: May 2007 Location: The earth Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT-TT Posts: 4,995 Rep Power: 18	Water meth doesn't add any hp. Essentially what it does is lowers the temps in the cylinder allowing for higher boost, more no2, higher compression or more advanced timing, those are where the power comes from. The meth just makes it safe to do those things. __________________ Under construction! Converting to single turbo, more to come! Twin Turbo- 338whp/311tq@4psi - Mustang dyno, courtesy PIA in Spanaway, WA. Panty dropping ability courtesy Forward Motion, Road///RaceEngineering, BrianJ, Delta Cams, Custom Import Heads

November 26th, 2011, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
horse-eater The O.G. Join Date: May 2007 Location: The earth Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT-TT Posts: 4,995 Rep Power: 18	honestly man, if you want a bolt up easy few HP, look into doing the basic bolt ons i/h/e and slap some nitrous on. there are a few GS guys that can give you moer info than you need about it. I know the GT guys arent even tuning the car with nitrous on. __________________ Under construction! Converting to single turbo, more to come! Twin Turbo- 338whp/311tq@4psi - Mustang dyno, courtesy PIA in Spanaway, WA. Panty dropping ability courtesy Forward Motion, Road///RaceEngineering, BrianJ, Delta Cams, Custom Import Heads

November 26th, 2011, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,333 Rep Power: 14	yeah, and to add onto what Carl is telling you - what DOES help is getting the AEM F/IC and leaning out your fuel mix. Some guys have seen as much as 15 - 20 hp increase if not more. the meth kit is really for F-I set-ups (turbos, superchargers) __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

November 28th, 2011, 05:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,998 Rep Power: 4	well u can pull extra power even stock but i will tell u right now i have headers, cai, pulley, gt tb, thermo spacers, header back 2.5" exhaust, high flow cat, aero muffler. i have a dyno running stock showing that i actually lost some power without tuning. but the tune can pull the full power out of the mods and more while safely leaning it out. __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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November 26th, 2011, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	ahh ok, i was trying to research precisely what that did and all info i found assumed you already knew the basics. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

November 28th, 2011, 03:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	Joey, can you give me a link that explains the AEM F/IC in more detail and what you mean by leaning out the fuel mix? I would love an extra 20 hp.

November 28th, 2011, 05:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	Right now just the fujita intake and the straight pipe exhaust, im thinking of getting the RRE header and the underdrive pulley but also looking into minor things I can do to get the extra hp without having to drop 2.5k for a turbo kit.

November 28th, 2011, 05:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	Ok first, can you give me a link to the high flow cat you have? ive been contemplating the header idea for a few weeks now but i would still like to pass smog but i didnt know there were any high flow cats out for this car. Also, what your telling me is I should get this ignition controller once i start getting the mods? Lastly, wtf does leaning the fuel out mean! i need a wiki article or something to read lol.

November 28th, 2011, 05:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,414 Rep Power: 9	all you need to do is look up "AEM F/IC" or "BrianJ" on here, and it will tell you everything you need to know about "leaning out" !!! go to the Tuning and Electronics section here and start reading !! High flow cat, just get a generic one (Magnaflow for example), i believe the GS piping is 2.25".

November 28th, 2011, 05:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	Domo Arigato my friends and im in california

November 28th, 2011, 06:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	haha well id be pushing it no matter what mod i get but to blatantly get a header that takes away my cat would make it too easy for a cop to pull me over and test my exhaust and give me a ticket. At least if i have the high flow cat hes going to have to really know his shit to fuck with me.

November 28th, 2011, 06:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
TheFootOfGod Luxury, Speed, and Style Name: Jesse Bridges Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: st. louis mo, USA Vehicle: 2008 eclipse gt-se Posts: 1,139 Rep Power: 3	yeah thats crazy. damn melodrama california REPs. everything has to be rainbows and flowers in cali, meanwhile their forest fires are burning down all the pot....

November 28th, 2011, 06:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	yup modding your car in cali is tricky and you sorta have to have a "fuck it ill end up paying for a ticket anyways but im still gonna mod this shit f the police" attitude haha

November 28th, 2011, 06:30 PM	#20 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,414 Rep Power: 9	you cant have the sun, beaches, beatches and mod your car... you gotta choose... up here we got long winters, chicks are all bundled up so you cant tell if they're hot or not but you can do whatever the f*** you want to your ride and nobody seems to care

November 28th, 2011, 06:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
Simba6 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Vehicle: 2007/Eclipse/GS Posts: 72 Rep Power: 1	lol you can have it all if your a rebel like Kevin

November 28th, 2011, 08:08 PM	#23 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,414 Rep Power: 9	haha, well that sounds like a nice place then !!! oh, did i mention we've got oil (=$$) up here? back where i'm from, you technically cant change ANYTHING on your car... rims, licence plate style, nothing... everything is illegal not here !!!!

November 28th, 2011, 08:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Oil money? Ya its alrigh man everything else is illegal so I guess it works out. __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^]

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