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Old April 29th, 2016, 02:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mitsubishi's MPG Scandal

Mitsubishi Motors CEO, COO likely to resign over mileage scandal: papers | Reuters

I actually see this is a blessing in disguise. The scandal itself is hardly as damning as VW's, and even Hyundai's a few years ago. But a new CEO? I'll take that. I'm good with them pursuing more environmentally friendly tech cars, but they need a new leader who actually WANTS to make cars.

Any new leadership would have to be aware of the years of complaints from fans and auto journos that Mitsu has lost its way by refusing to make any type of progress with cars that excite and compete. This 'scandal' could lead to more more exciting cars, we'll see.
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Good, I hope they pack up and take their precious i-Miev with them.

What works in Mitsubishi's favor is that they don't have to start from the ground up to build a decent enthusiast car. They've got some good engines and chassis already, so it wouldn't take much to cobble them together and roll them out on the cheap. Put the Lancer Ralliart motor in the Outlander Sport, bring back the Evo, drop the 2.0 in the Mirage GT, you know, easy things like that. Once the market takes interest, then tackle the big projects like resurrecting the 3000GT or a 5G Eclipse, or something entirely new.
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GM bailout scandle is by far worse.. Owned a bailout pos..bad when you start to know the dealer on first name bases from all the recalls. And other issues with gm cars..
And VW will very huge be lucky if they'll be around afterwards..
Hope Mitsubishi makes it through this...just by tearing into this car it put together way better then any car I've toren apart..and owned a lot through the years...mostly gm POS!
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If it's less than 80hp don't call it a GT, ok Mitsubishi? Throw a turbo on that sucker, make it 130hp, and THEN call it a GT. 130hp on a 2100lb car could be fun




Hopefully the new CEO will make a new sports car for Mitsu. 2 Door, AWD, turbo, yes.
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GM bailout scandle is by far worse.. Owned a bailout pos..bad when you start to know the dealer on first name bases from all the recalls. And other issues with gm cars..
And VW will very huge be lucky if they'll be around afterwards..
Hope Mitsubishi makes it through this...just by tearing into this car it put together way better then any car I've toren apart..and owned a lot through the years...mostly gm POS!
My last car was a base '06 G5 sedan (only existed in Canada, identical to the Cobalt sedan). Besides a power steering failure that almost caused a wreck (covered under recall) and some bogus ignition switch fiasco, the car was very reliable and never once left me stranded. I beat on that thing savagely, it was very easy to work on and parts were dirt cheap, both OEM and aftermarket. I have nothing but good things to say about that platform if you can look past the drab interior and panel gaps.

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If it's less than 80hp don't call it a GT, ok Mitsubishi? Throw a turbo on that sucker, make it 130hp, and THEN call it a GT. 130hp on a 2100lb car could be fun




Hopefully the new CEO will make a new sports car for Mitsu. 2 Door, AWD, turbo, yes.
There's an RVR GT too, it's the same 2.slow you'll find in other Mitsubishi branded toasters. The letters 'GT' are just that now, lettters, and nothing more.
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RVR GT makes more power than a GS Eclipse at least. Same weight
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It's the same 148hp two liter no?
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Comes with a 168hp I4 of some sorts now

EDIT: 2.4L 4B12 engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4B1_engine

Lighter than 4g69, but no cast iron block! I'll stick with my bombproof design thank you

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I swear to god if they dont dump the horrid 4 spd... Im going elsewhere for my next car. Christ fucking 200's have 9 speeds now? The genesis auto's have 7/8? Damn, this isnt 1990.
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I wish I had a four speed in my weekend car, gotta get by with a three and RWD. Hard times lol

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They've got some good engines and chassis already, so it wouldn't take much to cobble them together and roll them out on the cheap. Put the Lancer Ralliart motor in the Outlander Sport, bring back the Evo, drop the 2.0 in the Mirage GT, you know, easy things like that.
I agree with this completely. They could have done this with the 4G Ralliart Eclipse, a parts-bin halo car they cancelled for no apparent reason after building the concept. Mitsubishi has a history of doing this.

Hopefully a new CEO will emerge that understands building a car brand is more than just following CUV/EV sales figures, and that he or she comes from the engineering or design dept., and not from accounting.

A RWD coupe based on the Ralliart Lancer platform would be the stuff, an FR-S killer. Not holding my breath, just dreaming.
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I wouldn't mind if Mitsubishi put some effort into interior design either. Subaru is guity of this too, their cars are indistinguishable from what rolled out of the factories in the 90s.
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Now would be the perfect time for an Eclipse revival. With the success of the Genesis Coupe, and the 3 different Toyota GT86 models, sports coupes are an extremely hot market right now. All of these cars are relatively new, where as the Eclipse has history- we were in the first Fast and Furious movie! lol. Joking aside though, a new Eclipse would be perfect right now, because the market is set up for it. A lot of young kids with money- but not too much money (i.e, no Porsches, or Maseratis). Mitsubishi has been on a downward spiral for the past couple years, and it could be a great opportunity to make a comeback. In my opinion at least... I know if they came out with a new Eclipse (that had some of the elements we all talk about on here) I would trade in my soul, and my 4g.
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Thing is, do they have the budget to develop a brand new platform? Even if they do, and get started on it today, it'll still take them at least two years before they can get it into showrooms. I still think they should make hot versions of their current cars to try and get back some of the enthusiast market first. If people are buying SRT8 Grand Cherokees, why wouldn't they buy a 4B11T powered Outlander?
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Or if they made a lancer that had a turbo! I bet people would like that
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Or if they made a lancer that had a turbo! I bet people would like that
Ok let's not get carried away now lol
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Or if they made a lancer that had a turbo! I bet people would like that
So the lancer Ralliart haha
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The Ralliart came out at a bad time as all of its competitors were either much more powerful or desirable. Its main rival the WRX was pushing 265hp, even the bargain bin Cobalt SS could drive circles around it at 260hp/260tq.

The auto only gearbox probably didn't help sales much either.

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