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EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 08:29 PM

Is there anything out there to help the torque steer?

Zeppy · December 19th, 2009, 08:37 PM

The engine stiffy's should help

EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 08:44 PM

Warranty voider. -_- Great. Don't know why I expected differently.

Infliction · December 19th, 2009, 08:55 PM

why are you so worried about your warranty?
you arent looking to do anything major. you have plenty of people on here to ask if they've had any problems with it.
annnnd. mitsubishi makes reliable cars

EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 08:58 PM

Because my dad would skin my butt and hang it on the chimney for Santa if I messed up the warranty in any way.

the fuzz · December 19th, 2009, 08:59 PM

motor mounts 60a streets FTW they help TS alot also TD work great

EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infliction

why are you so worried about your warranty?
you arent looking to do anything major. you have plenty of people on here to ask if they've had any problems with it.
annnnd. mitsubishi makes reliable cars

Does our manufacturer's warranty say anything about after market parts voiding the warranty no matter what?

Infliction · December 19th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipseChick08

Because my dad would skin my butt and hang it on the chimney for Santa if I messed up the warranty in any way.

well thats... an image im not sure i wanted..
and in that case i understand.. i guess. but if he's worried about warranty. why are you driving it hard enough to worry about torque steer?

Infliction · December 19th, 2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipseChick08

Does our manufacturer's warranty say anything about after market parts voiding the warranty no matter what?

... not sure what youre asking there. please specify

EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infliction

well thats... an image im not sure i wanted..
and in that case i understand.. i guess. but if he's worried about warranty. why are you driving it hard enough to worry about torque steer?

It's a fast car, gotta experience it every once in a while!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infliction

... not sure what youre asking there. please specify

I was reading up on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty- Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 about how the dealer has to prove that the aftermarket part is what caused the problem. But it also says that some dealers put it in the warranty book that aftermarket parts void the warranty automatically therefore making the Magnuson-Moss Act not count. Does our warranty book say anything about aftermarket parts voiding our warranty automatically? I was gonna read through it when I go home but I figured I would ask while I'm on here.

4gAddict · December 19th, 2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipseChick08

It's a fast car, gotta experience it every once in a while!

I was reading up on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty- Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 about how the dealer has to prove that the aftermarket part is what caused the problem. But it also says that some dealers put it in the warranty book that aftermarket parts void the warranty automatically therefore making the Magnuson-Moss Act not count. Does our warranty book say anything about aftermarket parts voiding our warranty automatically? I was gonna read through it when I go home but I figured I would ask while I'm on here.

Technically, I would think that law would protect you from manufacturers from putting statements like that in your manual or contract.

EclipseChick08 · December 19th, 2009, 09:47 PM

Idk... Don't they have the right to?

Infliction · December 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM

idk.. there's ways to get around every law..
but im fairly certain mitsu isnt like that.

the fuzz · December 19th, 2009, 10:08 PM

my car has mad TS i have no idea why since theres only like 130lb tq lulz

dentedz71guy · December 20th, 2009, 06:29 AM

Good luck making enough power to cause a stiffy or mounts to actually be the source of a malfunction.

EclipseChick08 · December 20th, 2009, 04:58 PM

I guess I'm probably just going to do the Stiffy after Christmas. I doubt it could screw anything up. It's made to help.

dentedz71guy · December 20th, 2009, 07:05 PM

Agreed. One could almost argue that it would cause MORE damage NOT to have one, being that the engine moves around more and under heavier usage could potentially wear out the squishy stock mounts and result in further damage.

Almost...

Infliction · December 20th, 2009, 07:16 PM

yeah, could even say "almost" is an understatement..
the V6 jumps when you rev it on stock motor mounts.

07gt · December 20th, 2009, 07:33 PM

I'm getting the Energy Motor Mounts and stiffy at the same time...I think i remember reading somewhere that getting just the stiffy could potentially shift more energy to the stock motor mounts causing them to flex more than they should and cause premature wear down....how true that is..no clue

Infliction · December 20th, 2009, 07:36 PM

now she wont get anything

dentedz71guy · December 20th, 2009, 07:47 PM

No, she should be fine with just the TD. It'll relieve some of the loose energy just flopping around the stock mounts mounts by securing the engine a little more firmly to the frame (it's been awhile since we put it on, I don't exactly remember where it bolted up to). By doing so, the engine will have less slop under heavy torque conditions and should, in fact, prolong the life of your stock mounts. Don't quote me on this though, as this is just what the physics seem to say in MY head. I've been wrong before--I just like to provoke some thoughts from other people just to make sure they're still alive and not just letting me ramble. Needless to say, replace those piece of crap stock mounts as soon as possible anyways.

EclipseChick08 · December 20th, 2009, 08:29 PM

I dont know if I will be able to replace the stock mounts anytime soon..

Infliction · December 20th, 2009, 08:41 PM

if youre that worried about torque steer get the stiffy for now. you should notice the difference.

EclipseChick08 · December 20th, 2009, 10:37 PM

That's probably what I'm going to do. Baby steps. :]

Suprsaiyjinbroli · December 20th, 2009, 10:46 PM

...start doing forarm exercises...

That won't void your warranty...and it should be able to handle the stock power.

EclipseChick08 · December 20th, 2009, 10:52 PM

Lol. Apparently my forarms are very weak.

Zeppy · December 20th, 2009, 11:17 PM

I was reading on the "stiffy" post, Russ says to install the RRE Motor mount kit before the stiffy
RRE's motor Mount As stated in this post Ingalls Stiffy ETD (Engine Torque Damener) for the 2006+ V6 (6G75) Eclipse
And once you get the stiffy in here is how you adjust it
ingalls Torque Damper setting

EclipseChick08 · December 21st, 2009, 12:52 AM

Would it hurt the car to install the stiffy before though?

Zeppy · December 21st, 2009, 12:57 AM

They say in the post that since the stiffy is only on one side of the eng. that it will make the eng. twist funny and wear you motor mounts out faster.

EclipseChick08 · December 21st, 2009, 01:13 AM

Hmm that sucks... Now idk what to do

liquidsilver · December 21st, 2009, 07:31 AM

I tell you I have the GS and it's not a slow car. I don't like the torque.

EclipseChick08 · December 21st, 2009, 07:46 AM

Yeah, I drove the GS when I was looking at them and it's really not all that slow for 100 less hp. The power surprises me in these cars.

Infliction · December 21st, 2009, 08:06 PM

nothing wrong with the gs. but torque steer was never an issue with mine. it is with my galant (GT engine).. but i think its fun

Zeppy · December 21st, 2009, 08:38 PM

Heh try the stock v6 tiberon its like you are in a rodeo

Infliction · December 21st, 2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeppy

Heh try the stock v6 tiberon its like you are in a rodeo

i may regret saying this.. but who would ever want to drive one of those?

Mr DSM · December 22nd, 2009, 10:44 AM

buy the quaife differential

EclipseChick08 · December 22nd, 2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infliction

i may regret saying this.. but who would ever want to drive one of those?

I like them. If I ever have enough money I'm hoping to buy one as a project car.

Infliction · December 22nd, 2009, 08:09 PM

.. that makes no sense at all to me :/

EclipseChick08 · December 22nd, 2009, 11:01 PM

I like the looks of them. Idk. Put all kinds of stuff on it that i'm not able/wasn't able to do to this car.

Infliction · December 23rd, 2009, 09:12 PM

you can do that with an older eclipse too.. or a talon .. or a laser if you can find one in good shape. im sure your chances are a lot better down there than they are up here, and i saw a guy with a 1g laser a few months ago

buuuuut. the choice is all yours, i wont argue with it.

December 19th, 2009, 08:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Torque Steer Is there anything out there to help the torque steer? __________________

December 19th, 2009, 08:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zeppy Hold Mu Beer & Watch This Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT/Auto Posts: 572 Rep Power: 2	The engine stiffy's should help __________________ Hydrogen and Stupidity, most common elements in the universe.

December 19th, 2009, 08:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Warranty voider. -_- Great. Don't know why I expected differently. __________________

December 19th, 2009, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	why are you so worried about your warranty? you arent looking to do anything major. you have plenty of people on here to ask if they've had any problems with it. annnnd. mitsubishi makes reliable cars __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 19th, 2009, 08:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
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December 19th, 2009, 08:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
the fuzz k20 vs all Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NY Vehicle: eclipse,rsx,wrangler Posts: 6,364 Rep Power: 58	motor mounts 60a streets FTW they help TS alot also TD work great __________________ I-VTEC do you? K&N , Tsudo ,dc sports , HONDATA ,DC5JIMBO TUNED.

December 19th, 2009, 09:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Idk... Don't they have the right to? __________________

December 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	idk.. there's ways to get around every law.. but im fairly certain mitsu isnt like that. __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 19th, 2009, 10:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
the fuzz k20 vs all Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NY Vehicle: eclipse,rsx,wrangler Posts: 6,364 Rep Power: 58	my car has mad TS i have no idea why since theres only like 130lb tq lulz __________________ I-VTEC do you? K&N , Tsudo ,dc sports , HONDATA ,DC5JIMBO TUNED.

December 20th, 2009, 06:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
dentedz71guy The redneck Name: Jordan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Vehicle: 2006 Trailblazer SS Posts: 991 Rep Power: 4	Good luck making enough power to cause a stiffy or mounts to actually be the source of a malfunction.

December 20th, 2009, 04:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	I guess I'm probably just going to do the Stiffy after Christmas. I doubt it could screw anything up. It's made to help. __________________

December 20th, 2009, 07:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
dentedz71guy The redneck Name: Jordan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Vehicle: 2006 Trailblazer SS Posts: 991 Rep Power: 4	Agreed. One could almost argue that it would cause MORE damage NOT to have one, being that the engine moves around more and under heavier usage could potentially wear out the squishy stock mounts and result in further damage. Almost...

December 20th, 2009, 07:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	yeah, could even say "almost" is an understatement.. the V6 jumps when you rev it on stock motor mounts. __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 20th, 2009, 07:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
07gt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 2007 Spyder GT V6 Posts: 387 Rep Power: 2	I'm getting the Energy Motor Mounts and stiffy at the same time...I think i remember reading somewhere that getting just the stiffy could potentially shift more energy to the stock motor mounts causing them to flex more than they should and cause premature wear down....how true that is..no clue

December 20th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	now she wont get anything __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 20th, 2009, 07:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
dentedz71guy The redneck Name: Jordan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Vehicle: 2006 Trailblazer SS Posts: 991 Rep Power: 4	No, she should be fine with just the TD. It'll relieve some of the loose energy just flopping around the stock mounts mounts by securing the engine a little more firmly to the frame (it's been awhile since we put it on, I don't exactly remember where it bolted up to). By doing so, the engine will have less slop under heavy torque conditions and should, in fact, prolong the life of your stock mounts. Don't quote me on this though, as this is just what the physics seem to say in MY head. I've been wrong before--I just like to provoke some thoughts from other people just to make sure they're still alive and not just letting me ramble. Needless to say, replace those piece of crap stock mounts as soon as possible anyways.

December 20th, 2009, 08:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	I dont know if I will be able to replace the stock mounts anytime soon.. __________________

December 20th, 2009, 08:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	if youre that worried about torque steer get the stiffy for now. you should notice the difference. __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 20th, 2009, 10:37 PM	#24 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	That's probably what I'm going to do. Baby steps. :] __________________

December 20th, 2009, 10:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Suprsaiyjinbroli GT N Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Vehicle: '06 Liquid Silver GT Posts: 2,278 Rep Power: 5	...start doing forarm exercises... That won't void your warranty...and it should be able to handle the stock power. __________________

December 20th, 2009, 10:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Lol. Apparently my forarms are very weak. __________________

December 20th, 2009, 11:17 PM	#27 (permalink)
Zeppy Hold Mu Beer & Watch This Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT/Auto Posts: 572 Rep Power: 2	I was reading on the "stiffy" post, Russ says to install the RRE Motor mount kit before the stiffy RRE's motor Mount As stated in this post Ingalls Stiffy ETD (Engine Torque Damener) for the 2006+ V6 (6G75) Eclipse And once you get the stiffy in here is how you adjust it ingalls Torque Damper setting __________________ Hydrogen and Stupidity, most common elements in the universe.

December 21st, 2009, 12:52 AM	#28 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Would it hurt the car to install the stiffy before though? __________________

December 21st, 2009, 12:57 AM	#29 (permalink)
Zeppy Hold Mu Beer & Watch This Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT/Auto Posts: 572 Rep Power: 2	They say in the post that since the stiffy is only on one side of the eng. that it will make the eng. twist funny and wear you motor mounts out faster. __________________ Hydrogen and Stupidity, most common elements in the universe.

December 21st, 2009, 01:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Hmm that sucks... Now idk what to do __________________

December 21st, 2009, 07:31 AM	#31 (permalink)
liquidsilver Liquid Silver Hair Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Vehicle: 07/GS/Spyder Posts: 5,265 Rep Power: 88	I tell you I have the GS and it's not a slow car. I don't like the torque. __________________ MODS: 12Volt Adapter, Sun Visor Sunglass Holder. Couldn't see shit at night in the trunk so I installed a trunk light LOL

December 21st, 2009, 07:46 AM	#32 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	Yeah, I drove the GS when I was looking at them and it's really not all that slow for 100 less hp. The power surprises me in these cars. __________________

December 21st, 2009, 08:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	nothing wrong with the gs. but torque steer was never an issue with mine. it is with my galant (GT engine).. but i think its fun __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 21st, 2009, 08:38 PM	#34 (permalink)
Zeppy Hold Mu Beer & Watch This Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT/Auto Posts: 572 Rep Power: 2	Heh try the stock v6 tiberon its like you are in a rodeo __________________ Hydrogen and Stupidity, most common elements in the universe.

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December 22nd, 2009, 08:09 PM	#38 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	.. that makes no sense at all to me :/ __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

December 22nd, 2009, 11:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
EclipseChick08 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 3	I like the looks of them. Idk. Put all kinds of stuff on it that i'm not able/wasn't able to do to this car. __________________

December 23rd, 2009, 09:12 PM	#40 (permalink)
Infliction Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY Vehicle: 2009/Galant/Ralliart Posts: 2,023 Rep Power: 4	you can do that with an older eclipse too.. or a talon .. or a laser if you can find one in good shape. im sure your chances are a lot better down there than they are up here, and i saw a guy with a 1g laser a few months ago buuuuut. the choice is all yours, i wont argue with it. __________________ hmm... got really bored with the old one and still playing.

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