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Old February 5th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old February 5th, 2011, 11:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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DONT DO IT! seriously dont get it, you'll be sorry. search the forum. we got guys on here who are selling or parting out turbos. just look around.
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Old February 6th, 2011, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The issue is our turbo is mostly a custom kit and buying individual parts makes it more expensive, a decent kit for our cars are 3k and another 3 to install, i really hate our aftermarket support
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you gotta take what you can get sometimes though.. sucks but if you want it that bad you gotta bite the bullet...
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The issue is our turbo is mostly a custom kit and buying individual parts makes it more expensive, a decent kit for our cars are 3k and another 3 to install, i really hate our aftermarket support
this is true, but it's better than buying some whacky turbo off of ebay and killing your engine with it. lol i like the rpw big 16g ralliart turbo kit, it's around 5.9k
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bro. the GS can practically borrow any 4gXX turbo kit available.

look at the NA lancer kit. its pretty much the same damn thing with some slight modification.

you have to pay to play.

cheap, fast, reliable. you only get to pick 2.
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and if you think you are going to get all those parts for that price and have them last more than a couple days, you're stupid.
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I was going to say, it just isn't this easy. You always get what you pay for, like the guys say above. You need to KNOW your car and KNOW the kit and parts you are getting. it is just not easy to turn a n/a car into a FI one. You really need to understand what the kit is doing and how the engine works, etc. Even doing the build shrewdly and smartly will cost a few thousand dollars for anything of quality.

To me, someone wanting to go FI should buy a quality blower or trubo from a respectable company like Vortech or Greddy, HKS, etc. then build your set-up around that. Get the AEM F/IC 6 or something similar to control the fuel. You'll need to upgrade fuel delivery at least. (pump, regulator, injectors) If you push upwards of 10 lbs or more, you need to think about cooling - another thing that seems tricky and tough to get dialed in - either using a meth injection system or a FMI. If you push upwards of 10 lbs in the 6G75 w/out cooling you are looking at a very high chance of blowing your motor, it seems. So building your motor is at least another couple thousand.

Hey man, you could buy that, throw it on your car, and hell it may even work for all I know. I just feel like going FI is something you don't want to skimp on. Be smart, patient and shrewd, yes - but don't go cheap. just my 2 cents.
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Its not a bad kit I never had problems with the intercooler and piping from ebay but as far as the turbo, wastegate, bov, go with a respectable brand I learned the hard way it will work for a while but than it will die on you and its a headache . Turbo was good for a while but than began to leak oil so if you do buy it rebuild the turbo.Its a good base kit but I would build around it and get better parts.

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agreed. just buy it and upgrade all the main stuff....would i do it? hell no.
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well one person already bought this kit and it worked for a while and put out decent results i believe.....but i would def upgrade the main stuff....but his kit will start u off in the right direction.....just dont stick with it
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I have a kit from eBay with 700cc injectors, 500lph pump, and a fully tuneable piggy back that controls a/f and timing retard every thing total came out to little over $1800.00, the only suggestion I have is to make sure all the bolts on the turbo housing are tight, " mass production " may have faults in that area you'd be surprised at what a t3/t04e is capable of! And never forget to upgrade clutch and flywheel! I can also tell you where to get the piggyback for probably around $550.00 plus shipping.


Boosting 14psi on stock internals hehe! Haven't dyno'd! Internals yet to come intending to go above and beyond expectations of a 4g94

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I have a kit from eBay with 700cc injectors, 500lph pump, and a fully tuneable piggy back that controls a/f and timing retard every thing total came out to little over $1800.00, the only suggestion I have is to make sure all the bolts on the turbo housing are tight, " mass production " may have faults in that area you'd be surprised at what a t3/t04e is capable of! And never forget to upgrade clutch and flywheel! I can also tell you where to get the piggyback for probably around $550.00 plus shipping.


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Some people get lucky with eBay turbos, most people don't. I have seen several shafts on them just snap in the first hour or so of driving - probably do to extremely bad balancing.
If you want a cheap good turbo, Precision Turbo has some very reasonably priced entry level turbos, check into them.
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Search for an old member we used to have , eclipsetuner44. He used a universal turbo.

He was also the dumbest individual to breathe on this side of the universe. Installed it without any fuel management, thought he was boosting when none of his lines were even connected. And practically blow up his engine and blamed it on how shit stock internals were...

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you can turbocharge any motor...as long as it's fuelling properly, a little boost won't hurt anything...it's when you start pushing the power capacity of the motor that things will break down, and if it's tuned properly, it's not going to be detonation that causes the failure...wake up people.
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Detonation is the main cause of failure, but of course if you have too much boost you can cause other internal damage, bending rods etc.... But air fuel should be the main focus in any build aside from internal upgrades. Most people find that a 255lph pump is sufficient which it it but I always run a 500lph pump and nothing smaller than 600cc injectors... Of course with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and an aftermarket fuel management system... A fully tuneable piggyback for your FM and timing retard is what I always run, if anyone needs info on where to get one MSG me and I'll help you out, RRM, and other companies that have kits out use the same fuel management that I do but I go straight to the source so it is a little cheaper.
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Detonation is the main cause of failure, but of course if you have too much boost you can cause other internal damage, bending rods etc.... But air fuel should be the main focus in any build aside from internal upgrades. Most people find that a 255lph pump is sufficient which it it but I always run a 500lph pump and nothing smaller than 600cc injectors... Of course with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and an aftermarket fuel management system... A fully tuneable piggyback for your FM and timing retard is what I always run, if anyone needs info on where to get one MSG me and I'll help you out, RRM, and other companies that have kits out use the same fuel management that I do but I go straight to the source so it is a little cheaper.
What pump are you using that's 500lph?
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Detonation is the main cause of failure, but of course if you have too much boost you can cause other internal damage, bending rods etc.... But air fuel should be the main focus in any build aside from internal upgrades. Most people find that a 255lph pump is sufficient which it it but I always run a 500lph pump and nothing smaller than 600cc injectors... Of course with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and an aftermarket fuel management system... A fully tuneable piggyback for your FM and timing retard is what I always run, if anyone needs info on where to get one MSG me and I'll help you out, RRM, and other companies that have kits out use the same fuel management that I do but I go straight to the source so it is a little cheaper.
lol use 600 cc injectors on the 4g? Only under the influence of a green substance. The motor will blow straight out . Nobody has even come close to 600 hp so why in gods name use 600 cc is this a joke?
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When I used to be the tuner at the Tasca Mod shop, obviously primary Fords. I changed many pumps and they don't have a 500lph pump. 05+ Mustangs would usually get the GT500 pump setups and it was a dual pump basket with an extra module and some wiring, expensive and around 375lph. The next most popular thing was to use a Single or dual SVT Focus pump setup as they were 217lph if I remember right. Unless this is something new? I left there in 08.

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lol use 600 cc injectors on the 4g? Only under the influence of a green substance. The motor will blow straight out . Nobody has even come close to 600 hp so why in gods name use 600 cc is this a joke?
You can always tune injectors down, obviously you do not want to do way to big but 600cc would be fine just over kill for most people.
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this is what i had glimpsed at and when i looked back over it, it seems like false advertising
FORD RACING Aeromotive 1000Hp 500lph high flow TURBO bosch walbro FUEL PUMP NEW | eBay
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 12:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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this is what i had glimpsed at and when i looked back over it, it seems like false advertising
FORD RACING Aeromotive 1000Hp 500lph high flow TURBO bosch walbro FUEL PUMP NEW | eBay
Ahh basically a Aeromotive A1000 pump it looks like, Great pump but you need to sump the tank and such or do a inline setup or something funky, either or it would not be a easy install for these cars by any means especially with the plastic tanks. If you are in the 500whp range or less a Deatchwerks 265lph pump would be fine, 2 of them would probably support around 600whp or even a single Bosch 044 pump. Anymore then power then that and you will have to upgrade your line size. Just my $.02
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Lol no joke I said nothing smaller that 600cc, only because when I'm done with the engine I will need the fuel to support, my car runs fine with 700's if you have read the first post I put up... Everything I have is adjustable ane tuneable for the fuel system and ignition system (for timing retard). I'm in Hawaii so humidity plays a big factor when it comes to air fuel ratio...
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And if you must know what kind of pump, it's an airtex 500lph intank
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And if you must know what kind of pump, it's an airtex 500lph intank roller vein pump...
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And if you must know what kind of pump, it's an airtex 500lph intank
Never heard of it? Got a link?
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Airtex.com.... You have to call and special order the pump you need
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