Intake sucks water..Blown engine? - Club4G Forum : Mitsubishi Eclipse 4G Forums - 2006-2012 Eclipse Authority

4gcarbon · May 14th, 2011, 11:10 AM

Asked my dealership if installing an intake would void the warranty.
He said usually it will not, but he has had a few customers in the past that blew their engines because the intake sucked in too much water during heavy rainfall, and that is not covered by mitsu.

Has anyone heard of this or experienced it themselves.
Is there an intake that will prevent something like this from happening?

Is buying an intake really worth the hp gains. Is it a noticeable difference or a waste of money?

akley88 · May 14th, 2011, 11:12 AM

get a bypass valve and you will be fine.

joeyb · May 14th, 2011, 11:16 AM

it's for sure worth the money. just don't drive through a flood. get a rain hood or bypass valve like travis says if you are that worried about it. K&N makes a SRI that's enclosed in a heat sheild that will not intake water unless it's a tsunami.

zedawg · May 14th, 2011, 11:39 AM

you can't really blow your motor this way...the MAF will shut your engine down before anything blows

pat_08GT_Spyder · May 14th, 2011, 11:50 AM

You can blow your engine this way. It doesnt take that much water into the engine to hydrolock it...
However it takes a LOT of water / rain to get it sucked in through a CAI... The filter sits at least 8" from the ground!

MFTK · May 14th, 2011, 01:59 PM

blew the engine in my 00' neon with CAI
seized up and when i tried to get it started after i got whatever water i could out i blew the block lol oil and antifreeze everywhere... switched the stock intake back in then called the dealer and insurance company it was all cover

agustin · July 19th, 2011, 10:15 PM

I have a Injen Cold Air Intake for my Mitsubishi 2008 Eclipse SE(2.4L 4Cyl. Manual) (SP1870), does anyone know if an AEM Air Bypass Valve will work? and if so what size ?

JoeyC · July 19th, 2011, 10:26 PM

i have an aem i just bought the rain cover for it its just a sleeve that goes over filter!!!

FeaRlezZ · July 19th, 2011, 10:31 PM

^ do those hydro sleeves restrict any airflow ? and for people with a dc cai, can a bypass valve still work. . it is a 1 piece cai

deprydation · July 19th, 2011, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agustin

I have a Injen Cold Air Intake for my Mitsubishi 2008 Eclipse SE(2.4L 4Cyl. Manual) (SP1870), does anyone know if an AEM Air Bypass Valve will work? and if so what size ?

No, the AEM bypass valve will NOT work with your INJEN intake.

Don't know why, but even RRE says it won't work.

eclipse_6g75 · July 19th, 2011, 10:46 PM

my car sucks water and is alive

FeaRlezZ · July 19th, 2011, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eclipse_6g75

my car sucks water and is alive

ever gone into limp mode or anything ??

Steveo · July 19th, 2011, 10:54 PM

Here's what you do..if you happen to go threw a bad puddle and u suck in water try and get it home or turned off right away. Let it sit overnight to dry up then get an oil change and have your fuel system cleaned out..u will be fine this exact problem happened to me and the guy said I did everything right most important is the oil change and fuel cleaner..u could see it when u rev the engine after the fuel treatment..deff get on and not a short ram..just be careful

FeaRlezZ · July 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM

^ yes changing oil is obviously important . . but yes just b cautious when raining. but the placement of the filter really isnt that bad . . atleast on the auto gs it is well protected

snakeeyes · July 19th, 2011, 11:22 PM

i dont know why you would want to put a bypass valve on a cai except for maybe a quick install on rainy days in which case i would make it a shorty instead.otherwise that is restricting suction at the filter.its like having two air filters,1 small,1 big on the same pipe.if i was running a cai and happened to get water on it and had to shut the engine down across town say at 10:00 at night on the side of the road on the way home from work scenerio.what an inconvienence LOL

eclipse_6g75 · July 19th, 2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

ever gone into limp mode or anything ??

a lil failure in the rpms at idle but was okay after a rev to 5,000 rpms or something

kazman · July 20th, 2011, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedawg

you can't really blow your motor this way...the MAF will shut your engine down before anything blows

false.
water lock has happened before to people on this site. Jrods wife hydrolocked her 4g.

terapio · July 20th, 2011, 10:10 AM

Yah for auto GS, it is well covered especially if you have fog lights....I have DC Sports CAI and it will be great if i get the same response from my dealer about have CAI and not voiding your warranty.

229boss · July 20th, 2011, 10:52 AM

auto gs's rule!

pat_08GT_Spyder · July 20th, 2011, 02:10 PM

you dont need to suck up water for the dealer to void your warranty with a CAI... ask me how i know...
if your engine blows for an unclear reason, they will most likely blame it on the CAI sucking water even if you live in the Sahara desert...
then it's up to you to prove them wrong...

having said that, unless you drive through big puddles, you'll be alright...

FeaRlezZ · July 20th, 2011, 02:20 PM

i agree with the auto gs guys. . our cai's are very well protected. . we would literally have to drive through a 6" deep puddle to possibly get water

Pedro · July 20th, 2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

i agree with the auto gs guys. . our cai's are very well protected. . we would literally have to drive through a 6" deep puddle to possibly get water

That rocks I just bought my CAI and I live in Cali, good to know I won't have to hide from the rain, just the occasional puddle.

synthetic · July 20th, 2011, 05:28 PM

The dealership put my injen cai on it, they also installed the hydralock filter on it to keep water from getting sucked in. I also make a point to not puddle jump my car. general driving in rainy weather with a cai should be fine if its mounted in a good spot. mine sits in the bumper, right behind driver side fog light.

FeaRlezZ · July 20th, 2011, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthetic

The dealership put my injen cai on it, they also installed the hydralock filter on it to keep water from getting sucked in. I also make a point to not puddle jump my car. general driving in rainy weather with a cai should be fine if its mounted in a good spot. mine sits in the bumper, right behind driver side fog light.

did u seriously pay the dealer to install a fucking intake

zedawg · July 20th, 2011, 05:40 PM

if you don't want to void your guarantee its the only way to get a intake in your car...personally i don't even care about the guarantee because i can do anything on that car by myself

jarhead0321usmc · July 20th, 2011, 06:24 PM

How much did the stealership charge you to do that? Probably the third easier mod I've done on my car. But I bet they still charged you 150 to do it.

FeaRlezZ · July 20th, 2011, 06:26 PM

i wouldnt b surprised if they charged $850

pat_08GT_Spyder · July 20th, 2011, 06:32 PM

here in Canada i believe i was quoted around $ 450 for install... i laughed, and turned around... and dealer-installed or not, if they think that your CAI caused your engine to blow up, you can kiss your warranty good-bye...

FeaRlezZ · July 20th, 2011, 06:34 PM

$450

. . one day im gonna go to the dealer with a list of parts just to see wut they charge for install

zedawg · July 20th, 2011, 06:36 PM

i know someone who paid the stealership 700$ for HID kit + installation

FeaRlezZ · July 20th, 2011, 06:39 PM

floor mat install: $75

Pedro · July 20th, 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedawg

i know someone who paid the stealership 700$ for HID kit + installation

Holy daddy bag! Tell that pedobear I'll do it for him for 1/2 off with a free slap in the mouth!!!

Clovisman · July 20th, 2011, 08:03 PM

For folk who possess common sense, having a CAI poses no problem whether it's raining or sunshining.

For all others, driving in the rain with a CAI installed will not harm your engine. Driving through a two or three-inch puddle poses no harm. Driving through FN Lake Erie or the Mississippi River will Hydro-Lock your engine, i.e. if it looks deep, don't go through it, go around it!!

Clovis does not have any storm sewers, they use the roads to direct storm water. I drive slowly through six-inches of water all the time, and have yet to hydro-lock my engine. I'm sure if I didn't use my common sense and drove through these rivers of water going 25 or 35 mph, I'm sure I would hyro-lock, but common sense says slow and easy... and once again, if it looks like the Mississippi, don't go thtough it, go around it!!

NWood92 · September 21st, 2011, 08:36 PM

Feel like I'm gonna get bashed. So, If I get the Hydroshield, I won't need a Bypass?

FeaRlezZ · September 21st, 2011, 08:46 PM

ur better off with the hydroshield than the bypass. i have done tests with the hydroshield and it works very well

oharemtnbikerboy · September 21st, 2011, 10:56 PM

Don't get this... as my miata just got SWALLOWED by water. pulled the intake and plugs, waited a few days, and it started up like a charm. Well, kinda, with new noises, but it's all hoses, and my valvetrain sounds like a diesel. but a fair amount of water got into the engine, and it's all good.

May 14th, 2011, 11:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
4gcarbon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 642 Rep Power: 2	Intake sucks water..Blown engine? Asked my dealership if installing an intake would void the warranty. He said usually it will not, but he has had a few customers in the past that blew their engines because the intake sucked in too much water during heavy rainfall, and that is not covered by mitsu. Has anyone heard of this or experienced it themselves. Is there an intake that will prevent something like this from happening? Is buying an intake really worth the hp gains. Is it a noticeable difference or a waste of money?

May 14th, 2011, 11:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	get a bypass valve and you will be fine. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

May 14th, 2011, 11:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	it's for sure worth the money. just don't drive through a flood. get a rain hood or bypass valve like travis says if you are that worried about it. K&N makes a SRI that's enclosed in a heat sheild that will not intake water unless it's a tsunami. __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

May 14th, 2011, 11:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
zedawg Quebec Light Source Name: Olivier Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Québec(canada) Vehicle: Lancer ES/AWC 2012 Posts: 673 Rep Power: 2	you can't really blow your motor this way...the MAF will shut your engine down before anything blows __________________ www.quebeclightsource.com Find LEDs for your car

May 14th, 2011, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,419 Rep Power: 9	You can blow your engine this way. It doesnt take that much water into the engine to hydrolock it... However it takes a LOT of water / rain to get it sucked in through a CAI... The filter sits at least 8" from the ground! __________________ 275whp topless My ride: http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...gt-spyder.html

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May 14th, 2011, 01:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
MFTK Got Stance??? i dont :( Name: Dann Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LongIsland NY Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,464 Rep Power: 3	blew the engine in my 00' neon with CAI seized up and when i tried to get it started after i got whatever water i could out i blew the block lol oil and antifreeze everywhere... switched the stock intake back in then called the dealer and insurance company it was all cover

July 19th, 2011, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
agustin Senior Member Name: Agustin Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dallas,Tx Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GS/SE Posts: 904 Rep Power: 2	I have a Injen Cold Air Intake for my Mitsubishi 2008 Eclipse SE(2.4L 4Cyl. Manual) (SP1870), does anyone know if an AEM Air Bypass Valve will work? and if so what size ?

July 19th, 2011, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
JoeyC -cruzer- Name: joeyc Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2006 ECLIPSE GT Posts: 1,579 Rep Power: 3	i have an aem i just bought the rain cover for it its just a sleeve that goes over filter!!! __________________

July 19th, 2011, 10:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	^ do those hydro sleeves restrict any airflow ? and for people with a dc cai, can a bypass valve still work. . it is a 1 piece cai __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 19th, 2011, 10:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
eclipse_6g75 OPP Name: LF Join Date: May 2009 Location: Aguada, Oeste, Puerto Rico Vehicle: 2006/eclipse/GT/Premium Posts: 372 Rep Power: 3	my car sucks water and is alive __________________ Mods: aero kit, vision eyelids, SE spoiler, Fujita CAI, OBX LTH, magnaflow cat, magnaflow catback 2.5 exhaust, RRE motor mounts, ingalls stiffy, tints, black front,rear and roof end, oem spoiler painted matched to car, HID 10k on head, 2.5k nokyas fogs , ralliart emblems, eibach pro kit.. gun metal painted oem wheels.

July 19th, 2011, 10:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
Steveo Huge Member Name: Steve Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa FL Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT-N Posts: 1,904 Rep Power: 4	Here's what you do..if you happen to go threw a bad puddle and u suck in water try and get it home or turned off right away. Let it sit overnight to dry up then get an oil change and have your fuel system cleaned out..u will be fine this exact problem happened to me and the guy said I did everything right most important is the oil change and fuel cleaner..u could see it when u rev the engine after the fuel treatment..deff get on and not a short ram..just be careful __________________ Full Bolt On + Zex 75 wet shot ~ 353WHP~~327lbs TQ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...ates-ride.html RIP Matt (bullet06) A great man you were.

July 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	^ yes changing oil is obviously important . . but yes just b cautious when raining. but the placement of the filter really isnt that bad . . atleast on the auto gs it is well protected __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 19th, 2011, 11:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
snakeeyes 4g Fanatic Name: Loves haters ! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: TN hills Vehicle: 09 5 speed manual Posts: 3,149 Rep Power: 5	i dont know why you would want to put a bypass valve on a cai except for maybe a quick install on rainy days in which case i would make it a shorty instead.otherwise that is restricting suction at the filter.its like having two air filters,1 small,1 big on the same pipe.if i was running a cai and happened to get water on it and had to shut the engine down across town say at 10:00 at night on the side of the road on the way home from work scenerio.what an inconvienence LOL __________________ Modified

July 20th, 2011, 10:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
terapio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: The BAY, CA Vehicle: 2011/Eclipse/gs sport Posts: 147 Rep Power: 1	Yah for auto GS, it is well covered especially if you have fog lights....I have DC Sports CAI and it will be great if i get the same response from my dealer about have CAI and not voiding your warranty.

July 20th, 2011, 10:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
229boss Senior Member Name: James Alphadawg Jones Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: jacksonville , florida Vehicle: 2007 eclipse spyder gs Posts: 657 Rep Power: 2	auto gs's rule!

July 20th, 2011, 02:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,419 Rep Power: 9	you dont need to suck up water for the dealer to void your warranty with a CAI... ask me how i know... if your engine blows for an unclear reason, they will most likely blame it on the CAI sucking water even if you live in the Sahara desert... then it's up to you to prove them wrong... having said that, unless you drive through big puddles, you'll be alright...

July 20th, 2011, 02:20 PM	#21 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	i agree with the auto gs guys. . our cai's are very well protected. . we would literally have to drive through a 6" deep puddle to possibly get water __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 20th, 2011, 05:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
synthetic Senior Member Name: Brandon Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Vehicle: 2011/GT/6MT Posts: 397 Rep Power: 2	The dealership put my injen cai on it, they also installed the hydralock filter on it to keep water from getting sucked in. I also make a point to not puddle jump my car. general driving in rainy weather with a cai should be fine if its mounted in a good spot. mine sits in the bumper, right behind driver side fog light.

July 20th, 2011, 05:40 PM	#25 (permalink)
zedawg Quebec Light Source Name: Olivier Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Québec(canada) Vehicle: Lancer ES/AWC 2012 Posts: 673 Rep Power: 2	if you don't want to void your guarantee its the only way to get a intake in your car...personally i don't even care about the guarantee because i can do anything on that car by myself __________________ www.quebeclightsource.com Find LEDs for your car

July 20th, 2011, 06:24 PM	#26 (permalink)
jarhead0321usmc Celer, Silens, Mortalis Name: Rob Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maine Vehicle: 2006 GT Posts: 1,041 Rep Power: 3	How much did the stealership charge you to do that? Probably the third easier mod I've done on my car. But I bet they still charged you 150 to do it.

July 20th, 2011, 06:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	i wouldnt b surprised if they charged $850 __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 20th, 2011, 06:32 PM	#28 (permalink)
pat_08GT_Spyder dirty frenchie Name: Pat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Vehicle: 08 GT Spyder 6MT Posts: 5,419 Rep Power: 9	here in Canada i believe i was quoted around $ 450 for install... i laughed, and turned around... and dealer-installed or not, if they think that your CAI caused your engine to blow up, you can kiss your warranty good-bye...

July 20th, 2011, 06:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	$450 . . one day im gonna go to the dealer with a list of parts just to see wut they charge for install __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 20th, 2011, 06:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
zedawg Quebec Light Source Name: Olivier Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Québec(canada) Vehicle: Lancer ES/AWC 2012 Posts: 673 Rep Power: 2	i know someone who paid the stealership 700$ for HID kit + installation __________________ www.quebeclightsource.com Find LEDs for your car

July 20th, 2011, 06:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	floor mat install: $75 __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

July 20th, 2011, 08:03 PM	#33 (permalink)
Clovisman Senior Member Name: John Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Clovis, NM Vehicle: 2007 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,045 Rep Power: 6	For folk who possess common sense, having a CAI poses no problem whether it's raining or sunshining. For all others, driving in the rain with a CAI installed will not harm your engine. Driving through a two or three-inch puddle poses no harm. Driving through FN Lake Erie or the Mississippi River will Hydro-Lock your engine, i.e. if it looks deep, don't go through it, go around it!! Clovis does not have any storm sewers, they use the roads to direct storm water. I drive slowly through six-inches of water all the time, and have yet to hydro-lock my engine. I'm sure if I didn't use my common sense and drove through these rivers of water going 25 or 35 mph, I'm sure I would hyro-lock, but common sense says slow and easy... and once again, if it looks like the Mississippi, don't go thtough it, go around it!! __________________ 2007 Eclipse GT=Sunset=Auto--20% Tint=Injen CAI=RIPP Long Tube Headers (Jet-Hot Coated)=RIPP High Flow Cat=RIPP BRAT Box=Magnaflow Cat Back Exhaust=Energy Motor Mounts=Ingalls Stiffy=Megan Coilover Suspension=Progress Rear Sway Bar=SP Performance Diamond Cut & Slotted Rotors=EBC Yellow Stuff Kevlar Pads=Diamond Lower Grill=Konig Illusion Wheels=BF Goodrich G-Force Super Sport Tires

September 21st, 2011, 08:36 PM	#34 (permalink)
NWood92 Member Name: Nick Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Parsons, Tennessee Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 89 Rep Power: 3	Feel like I'm gonna get bashed. So, If I get the Hydroshield, I won't need a Bypass?

September 21st, 2011, 08:46 PM	#35 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	ur better off with the hydroshield than the bypass. i have done tests with the hydroshield and it works very well __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

September 21st, 2011, 10:56 PM	#36 (permalink)
oharemtnbikerboy Banned Name: Zach Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tucson, AZ Vehicle: 2008 eclipse GT cpe 6MT Posts: 129 Rep Power: 0	Don't get this... as my miata just got SWALLOWED by water. pulled the intake and plugs, waited a few days, and it started up like a charm. Well, kinda, with new noises, but it's all hoses, and my valvetrain sounds like a diesel. but a fair amount of water got into the engine, and it's all good.

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