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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Intake sucks water..Blown engine?

Asked my dealership if installing an intake would void the warranty.
He said usually it will not, but he has had a few customers in the past that blew their engines because the intake sucked in too much water during heavy rainfall, and that is not covered by mitsu.

Has anyone heard of this or experienced it themselves.
Is there an intake that will prevent something like this from happening?

Is buying an intake really worth the hp gains. Is it a noticeable difference or a waste of money?
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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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get a bypass valve and you will be fine.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 11:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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it's for sure worth the money. just don't drive through a flood. get a rain hood or bypass valve like travis says if you are that worried about it. K&N makes a SRI that's enclosed in a heat sheild that will not intake water unless it's a tsunami.
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You can blow your engine this way. It doesnt take that much water into the engine to hydrolock it...
However it takes a LOT of water / rain to get it sucked in through a CAI... The filter sits at least 8" from the ground!
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blew the engine in my 00' neon with CAI
seized up and when i tried to get it started after i got whatever water i could out i blew the block lol oil and antifreeze everywhere... switched the stock intake back in then called the dealer and insurance company it was all cover
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I have a Injen Cold Air Intake for my Mitsubishi 2008 Eclipse SE(2.4L 4Cyl. Manual) (SP1870), does anyone know if an AEM Air Bypass Valve will work? and if so what size ?
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i have an aem i just bought the rain cover for it its just a sleeve that goes over filter!!!
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^ do those hydro sleeves restrict any airflow ? and for people with a dc cai, can a bypass valve still work. . it is a 1 piece cai
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I have a Injen Cold Air Intake for my Mitsubishi 2008 Eclipse SE(2.4L 4Cyl. Manual) (SP1870), does anyone know if an AEM Air Bypass Valve will work? and if so what size ?
No, the AEM bypass valve will NOT work with your INJEN intake.

Don't know why, but even RRE says it won't work.
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my car sucks water and is alive
ever gone into limp mode or anything ??
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Here's what you do..if you happen to go threw a bad puddle and u suck in water try and get it home or turned off right away. Let it sit overnight to dry up then get an oil change and have your fuel system cleaned out..u will be fine this exact problem happened to me and the guy said I did everything right most important is the oil change and fuel cleaner..u could see it when u rev the engine after the fuel treatment..deff get on and not a short ram..just be careful
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^ yes changing oil is obviously important . . but yes just b cautious when raining. but the placement of the filter really isnt that bad . . atleast on the auto gs it is well protected
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i dont know why you would want to put a bypass valve on a cai except for maybe a quick install on rainy days in which case i would make it a shorty instead.otherwise that is restricting suction at the filter.its like having two air filters,1 small,1 big on the same pipe.if i was running a cai and happened to get water on it and had to shut the engine down across town say at 10:00 at night on the side of the road on the way home from work scenerio.what an inconvienence LOL
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ever gone into limp mode or anything ??
a lil failure in the rpms at idle but was okay after a rev to 5,000 rpms or something
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you can't really blow your motor this way...the MAF will shut your engine down before anything blows
false.
water lock has happened before to people on this site. Jrods wife hydrolocked her 4g.
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you dont need to suck up water for the dealer to void your warranty with a CAI... ask me how i know...
if your engine blows for an unclear reason, they will most likely blame it on the CAI sucking water even if you live in the Sahara desert...
then it's up to you to prove them wrong...

having said that, unless you drive through big puddles, you'll be alright...
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i agree with the auto gs guys. . our cai's are very well protected. . we would literally have to drive through a 6" deep puddle to possibly get water
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i agree with the auto gs guys. . our cai's are very well protected. . we would literally have to drive through a 6" deep puddle to possibly get water
That rocks I just bought my CAI and I live in Cali, good to know I won't have to hide from the rain, just the occasional puddle.
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The dealership put my injen cai on it, they also installed the hydralock filter on it to keep water from getting sucked in. I also make a point to not puddle jump my car. general driving in rainy weather with a cai should be fine if its mounted in a good spot. mine sits in the bumper, right behind driver side fog light.
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The dealership put my injen cai on it, they also installed the hydralock filter on it to keep water from getting sucked in. I also make a point to not puddle jump my car. general driving in rainy weather with a cai should be fine if its mounted in a good spot. mine sits in the bumper, right behind driver side fog light.
did u seriously pay the dealer to install a fucking intake
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if you don't want to void your guarantee its the only way to get a intake in your car...personally i don't even care about the guarantee because i can do anything on that car by myself
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How much did the stealership charge you to do that? Probably the third easier mod I've done on my car. But I bet they still charged you 150 to do it.
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here in Canada i believe i was quoted around $ 450 for install... i laughed, and turned around... and dealer-installed or not, if they think that your CAI caused your engine to blow up, you can kiss your warranty good-bye...
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$450 . . one day im gonna go to the dealer with a list of parts just to see wut they charge for install
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i know someone who paid the stealership 700$ for HID kit + installation
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For folk who possess common sense, having a CAI poses no problem whether it's raining or sunshining.

For all others, driving in the rain with a CAI installed will not harm your engine. Driving through a two or three-inch puddle poses no harm. Driving through FN Lake Erie or the Mississippi River will Hydro-Lock your engine, i.e. if it looks deep, don't go through it, go around it!!

Clovis does not have any storm sewers, they use the roads to direct storm water. I drive slowly through six-inches of water all the time, and have yet to hydro-lock my engine. I'm sure if I didn't use my common sense and drove through these rivers of water going 25 or 35 mph, I'm sure I would hyro-lock, but common sense says slow and easy... and once again, if it looks like the Mississippi, don't go thtough it, go around it!!
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Feel like I'm gonna get bashed. So, If I get the Hydroshield, I won't need a Bypass?
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ur better off with the hydroshield than the bypass. i have done tests with the hydroshield and it works very well
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Don't get this... as my miata just got SWALLOWED by water. pulled the intake and plugs, waited a few days, and it started up like a charm. Well, kinda, with new noises, but it's all hoses, and my valvetrain sounds like a diesel. but a fair amount of water got into the engine, and it's all good.
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CAI is a bad idea for gt

I have a 2009 gts with an injen cai, owned my car for the past 5 years, i bought the car with the injen cai installed. every time it rained the car would bog down and even worse just die on the highway especially while behind another car.....the reason for this is the fog light on the drivers side. the plastic bezel is only solid on one side the other side has large holes that make it look like mesh. right behind that plastic bezel is your intake fileter imagine going 60 and getting your filter sprayed by a hose thats what its like. I live in NY, and to fix this i took the bezel off, got some 3m clear film put it on the back side of the bezel and then clipped it back in where it belongs. Now when the rain hits that hole there is no place for it to go........my check engine light will not go off now and i think its the MAF and praying its not my cylinder. Good luck!
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I have a 2009 gts with an injen cai, owned my car for the past 5 years, i bought the car with the injen cai installed. every time it rained the car would bog down and even worse just die on the highway especially while behind another car.....the reason for this is the fog light on the drivers side. the plastic bezel is only solid on one side the other side has large holes that make it look like mesh. right behind that plastic bezel is your intake fileter imagine going 60 and getting your filter sprayed by a hose thats what its like. I live in NY, and to fix this i took the bezel off, got some 3m clear film put it on the back side of the bezel and then clipped it back in where it belongs. Now when the rain hits that hole there is no place for it to go........my check engine light will not go off now and i think its the MAF and praying its not my cylinder. Good luck!
I dunno man, I've had an Injen CAI in my GT for a year and an Injen on my last car for many more, never had an issue with water (no bypass or hydrosheild on either). Granted, I haven't pushed my luck by driving into lakes or rivers, but have driven through heavy rain and high standing water on the road without problems knock on wood. If the splash guard is properly reinstalled after, you shouldn't have too much of an issue with water
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I have the AEM CAI, I've driven through a lot of heavy rain storms and I've had no issue.
Tbh if you put your car through water deep enough to hydrolock your engine, i don't think it would matter what your intake set up is.
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