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Old July 27th, 2011, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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do you think its more cost effective to just trade or should i just modd my gs to be as fast as the gt

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It would make much more sense to trade. Unless you're into doing really stupid things. Haha
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Nah, I don't get why people are knocking the 4G69 here. It's really a personal choice.

Can you make a GS faster than a GT?

Of COURSE! The 4G69 actually has a TON of potential to it.

Is the GT a more powerful starting point?

Absolutely, it's a V6. You've got a ton more displacement and 2 more cylinders of power making ability. You're comparing an apple to a pumpkin here.


Which will cost more to modify?

Depending on which way you wanna go, they're both expensive. It's expensive to modify anything with the 4G because of our limited parts market and people not willing to pony up the dough to be testers and develop new parts for the platform. I would honestly say that the GS has a larger aftermarket for parts. You can share alot of parts with the Lancers and they have some pretty cool setups for them.

It really depends on your budget and how far you plan to take the car man. If you plan on making this a project car and tearing into it and doing alot of custom work, go either way, just know that either way will be painstaking and will cost you a pretty penny.

I'd personally love to see a GS that pulls in the 12's at the 1/4 mile. That would be amazing.
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Its really easy to make a gt fast with a grand or two
but its also really easy to make a gs fast as hell with 3 or 4 grand. The 4g69 is a sweet platform and it really depends on your budget. Plus you dont have to worry about the extra weight of a v6 or having to pick up a stiffy because your engine torques so much
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I'm prejudiced so keep that in mind.......the GT I think is a better starting place if you really plan on taking it far.
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I'm prejudiced so keep that in mind.......the GT I think is a better starting place if you really plan on taking it far.
First time I saw a built GT was at the East coast meet and god was it different than the GS, I can see why some many people love them, and the engine bay looks raw. It is a better platform to start on but I mean I just have a sore spot for people who throw in the towel and just get the bigger engine because they dont wanna build a platform, that doesnt go for the eclipse its can be applied to any car in general. imo if you have the money for the extra payments, higher insurance, and faster car then you should have the money for the build of a lower platform n/a or f/i. even a full bolt on is pretty quick I got to see after riding in robs. That is a really bias opinion ill admit it, i've always been a tiny engine f/i kinda guy. dont get me wrong I love all motor its such a better platform to start on I mean you already have the power I had to dump so much money to make I just enjoy all the extra "fun stuff" that makes all kindsa crazy things and sounds happen puts a massive smile on my face. I was all for trading my car for the GT at first ill be honest, but I was talked out of it by multiple friends because its what I get out of turning something from rags to ritches lol and ive never looked back.

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My bad is that how I make you guys feel at the meets..lol wait until it gets out of the shop Sunday..haha Cesar you should hear this hks now..louder than you saw before.
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Haha my fault with the horrible grammar. I was brought up in the private school systems as a child and developed a love for school girl outfits..needless to say I didn't pay to much attention in class...well I did just not the material. Well the material was like a cotton or maybe a....never mind see what happens when I reminis...
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dude i bet that shit roars, like we told you, nothing HKS makes is garbage, its all top notch. i cant wait to hear it
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dude i bet that shit roars, like we told you, nothing HKS makes is garbage, its all top notch. i cant wait to hear it
When m car was goin in I was like what am I doin i love at growl and I didn't love the hks when heard him roll it out..but when I got on it and didn't hear that rasp I fell in love..I had my girl rev it while I stood behind and I damned near jumped outta my skin. Even whle richie is in Spain we should still meet up..I wanna have an unvailing meet lol.
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First time I saw a built GT was at the East coast meet and god was it different than the GS, I can see why some many people love them, and the engine bay looks raw. It is a better platform to start on but I mean I just have a sore spot for people who throw in the towel and just get the bigger engine because they dont wanna build a platform, that doesnt go for the eclipse its can be applied to any car in general. imo if you have the money for the extra payments, higher insurance, and faster car then you should have the money for the build of a lower platform n/a or f/i. even a full bolt on is pretty quick I got to see after riding in robs. That is a really bias opinion ill admit it, i've always been a tiny engine f/i kinda guy. dont get me wrong I love all motor its such a better platform to start on I mean you already have the power I had to dump so much money to make I just enjoy all the extra "fun stuff" that makes all kindsa crazy things and sounds happen puts a massive smile on my face. I was all for trading my car for the GT at first ill be honest, but I was talked out of it by multiple friends because its what I get out of turning something from rags to ritches lol and ive never looked back.
Extremely well put, E-rep+, the best answer to this question by far

I don't think anyone is trying to discourage anyone from modding full-tilt, GS, GT, or otherwise. But when someone asks the questions, I would hope they are delving for a truthful answer. Doing a custom turbo, or SRS is not for the meek. So like for you Elemenohpee, and some others, you knew exactly what you were about to get into, hard work, knowledge, time, problem solving, and money. You knew your goals and limitations.

So if someone asks that question, it's obvious they have limitations. Asking questions on how to do the mod is one thing, but not being sure is another. Once you start this project, if you get halfway though and decide it's above your abilities, that's a ton of wasted time, and money!!

Take our average modders, and I'm just using this as an example. Installing a CAI system, or better yet, headers. For most of us it's a breeze, in-fact we highly recommend these mods all the time, yet we are all so tired of hearing questions on CAI's, and/or headers we start flaming people sometimes when they have a problem with the install, or a code after install. Most of these questions or problems are easily resolved, but some people don't understand the theory, or lack the mechanical ability so they still run into problems. On smaller mods like this it's not really a problem, we always talk them through until the problem is resolved.

I'm sure all you turbo guys will agree, there is a big difference between installing a custom turbo setup, and a CAI, or header system. One a general mechanic can do, the other is going to take a lot of mechanic ability, knowledge, and money.

So as long as you know what your limitations are, what your money, time, and effort is going to buy, the headaches, and the pride you'll feel after it's all finished, I say go for it!!! But if you are asking the question whether... then you haven't done your research yet, you're doubting you mechanical abilities, and it just might be easier and the same price or less, too sell your GS and buy a GT platform.

Now I think this is a fair assessment on both sides. Why I want/did a turbo for my GS, or I want more HP, but I doubt my abilities, so I'm selling my GS and going GT.
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^Clovis, Love it man and so true. I never really thought about it that way before but it is very true. When people discuss matters like this they often haven't considered what they really want out of a car or they haven't taken the time to really budget and assess themselves to see what they can handle. For me I got the GS because I couldn't afford the insurance at the time for the V6. Trust me I would have loved to have had more power. But know that I have the GS I like it because the cost of the car, upgrades, insurance, and gas. Now I have my sights set on a custom turbo build (Starting in two weeks!!! Can't wait!!!). This is not really because I want to just have a faster car (but it's a perk) But because I have been studying F/I for a year now and have watched other guys go through it and now I am ready to try my hand at it. I have never done anything like this before and I can't wait for the pride I will feel when she starts up, runs, and I hear the first whoosh out of that BOV. I want my car to be fast but more importantly I want it to be unique and I want to be proud of it. That is why I get mad when people say just get a GT... Yeah sure that would be easy and I could totally get more HP but with my budget and capabilities I know the 4-banger is for me... but at the same time I want a 4-banger that will blow people's mind and make them say "You did all that?" That is why I am modding my GS

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this is what i have been emailing dealerships around so cal

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I want to trade my gs 5 speed 89000 miles red exterior black interior for an 06 or newer gt 6speed I don’t really care for color or if it’s the spyder I just want it to have decent miles on it and will not pay no more then 10000 sticker price
what do you have to offer ?
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Old July 30th, 2011, 01:51 AM   #30 (permalink)
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if u want more power right off the bat , do the gt..im a gser but im also a realist and there is no way a gs will beat a gt with the same mods or kits on it.
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Those guys said it right. I'm not the best machanic so I chose to have a friend charge me a little..said and done I probably put about $2500 to $3000 in parts and labor the past 2 weeks..I could have went and bought a vette for that and trade in but I love this platform and car. I feel like the lack of aftermarket discourages people and they just give up. If your looking to mod or not your either the gs or gt is gunna be great. Just depends on what direction you go...sorry kinda rambled got out of work and I'm having a drink
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^^^^ All good points guys... I really wanted a Vett, but couldn't afford the sticker-shock , so I got the next best thing... a GT .

I actually was going to get a GS, but my sales person was nice enough to talk me into a GT, and he didn't even have to twist my arm .
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all i can say is GS owners say "oh i love my GS too much" until you hear and see a full bolt on GT beast in person, makes your balls retract indeed.
Lmfao I know gt's are a lot faster but i think the 4 bangers sound meaner imo.
I had mine next to a gt with similar mods and mine was deff louder and more aggressive sounding.
I don't have a cat back or a header, neither did the gt.

all the gs mods are cheaper, the car was cheaper the gas is cheaper.. If you want a nice car that has potential but your on a budget gs is the way to go. If money is no issue gt.
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