Two step???

[dejectedangle]

Anyone know if it's possible to install on a eclipse and what's a good setup to buy??? It would help launching a lot...... not buying this for the flames it shoots out?

Here's a vid of what I'm talking bout

‪SRT-4 AGP zeta 3.0 turbo 2-step n2mb Wot box LOUD‬‏ - YouTube

[stangcobra]

I dont know what it is
but I want one

[OrangeDemon]

it almost sounds like a Rev Limiter. Is the purpose to hold a button so you can mash the pedal and stay at a specified rpm until you release the button?

[joeyb]

like a launch button? fuck that. I'm about the heel-toe....naw just kidding man I don't know shit about it

[bullet06]

2 step is anti lag it builds up boost so you can launch at full boost or high boost. It's hard on the charger though. Look in to rally anti lag kits for evo's.

[bullet06]

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[Justin]

Ive seen one on here

[Justin]

[bullet06]

http://www.google.com/m/url?client=m...ZQgfNBN9_XzYoAAny Anti-Lag kits available? - NASIOC

[bullet06]

Just had ANTI LAG installed on my WRX - NASIOC

[dejectedangle]

Ya I'm guessin like a rev limiter... Maybe Brian will know a good product and what pins to tap into... Cause watching the launches on cars with this could drop .5-1 off time

[dejectedangle]

Who is the eclipse member with this installed?

[NitroGlisson]

This is all new to me....I saw two-step and thought it was staggered NO2 stages or either someone had started a dance class

It doesn't look like it would too healthy for the engine....a lot of added stress. I guess I'm just looking at it from my point of view.....my car is a DD.

[bullet06]

it is something you can do with a stand alone ems. it retards the timing and lets burnt fuel out the exhaust early. but so early the fuel is still burning thus the flames. it does all this to hold higher boost for launching the car. it is manly a rally car thing. but it will kill your blower before its time.

[BPHILLY22]

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[ussoldier0227]

Some people have hit near it but not on the point.

This is pretty much called "no lift shift"

You program some sort of piggyback, say the dsmlink, and you can set your rpms to stay at whatever you set while fully depressing the gas. Lets say you have it set at 5k rpms. when rady to launch, the rpms will bounce off of 5k till you launch. Then while going down the track you never let off the gas. While shifting the rpms will continue to stay at 5k till you shift.....creating no lag in between shifts

[dejectedangle]

Lol guys we know what it does and how it works I just want to know of a good brand to buy and if anyone knows of one that's compatable for our cars

[ussoldier0227]

Not that I know of unless you contact aem and see what they can do. Untill we get some sort of piggy back/ programer, I have no clue if we have anything like that.

If AEM makes that full standalone for the 4g then ya you can do it....thats round 1500 bones though lol.

[bullet06]

you would need a harness made for a stand alone like AEM EMS and have someone tune it thats realy the only whay i know how. its not a bolt on system its a tune. so youll need a stand alone and a shop that has done this before. so this will not be cheap for this car with out a stand alone. maybe able to do it with fic but i dont know.

[Da Mister E]

two step and anti lag are two different things, two step is a rev limiter. step one = 0-blank mph rev limiter at blank, step 2 factory or what ever you want, so u can have it limited to 3500 rpm till 10 mph for launch and 7200 rpm for every thing else. anti lag is a set up for turboed cars to send extra fuel when you let off gas that explodes in exhaust manifold to keep the turbo spinning to prevent lag when your in the next gear. often on turboed cars they are combined, but for a na set up two step would provide consistency in launches bc rpms are held where you want it with the gas to the floor

[dejectedangle]

Get me a 2step setup man... Ya like I stated above I don't need to shoot out flames and I'm not even turbo so...

I would go to the places around me but they never help me I tell them I own a supercharged eclipse and get all dumb act like I have no shot in finding one... like if it's not a wrx or evo they won't help you... Assholes

[Da Mister E]

the only way i found to set it up is some how someone set one up on a tc with the aem f/ic and ghetto rigged it with switches and relays, also with the reflash that was going around, lanzerralliart has it set up with reflash from psi tuning ‪2005 lancer ralliart hackish/psi tuning reflash‬‏ - YouTube

[leet]

reflash is the only way you can do this. btw the video justin posted of a 4g is not close to 2step. he is hitting the rev limiter.

[deprydation]

I would love to be able to 2 step on my car.

BrianJ would be able to answer some questions on this. He's like a genius when it comes to anything FIC related.

[skysky]

It would be cool if we could get this with the re-flash. It would add one more thing to the list of benefits to make it more marketable *hint*hint*, other than rev and speed limiters.Throw in a two-step for consistent launches and more people would buy the re-flash. That is of course, if it ever gets finished.

[haladafs]

our cars have trouble launching as it is, why build more power at launch when we can't get traction with the power unspooled as it is. I could see this being cool with the lsd, but pointless without it. i

[skysky]

Originally Posted by haladafs

our cars have trouble launching as it is, why build more power at launch when we can't get traction with the power unspooled as it is. I could see this being cool with the lsd, but pointless without it. i

I think you're getting them confused.

You set the Two step at a launch rpm. Your not spooling up to make power, your limiting your rpm at launch so you launch in a controlled fashion without wheel spin. Its the same thing as holding your launch rpm, but instead of feathering the throttle you just floor it, its stops at 2300 rpm let the clutch out and go. It makes launching more consistent because your not blipping or dropping your rpm on launch, it also can limit your rpm to a certain speed so that your engine fully revs when you have traction. So instead of flooring it and spinning, letting off, flooring it again and spinning, letting of again, then shifting to second. You can floor it, drop the clutch, rpm is limited to say 3k till you hit 15 mph then it cuts out and revs all the way.

If you've ever watched a drag car start popping and hitting a rev limit just before launch, your usually watching a two step. Those cars make shit tons of power, you can't honestly think they are launching at a full rev limit. They hit their two step rev limit at their optimal launch rpm. On a FWD car anything we can get to help with traction and launch I'll take. A two step lets you dial in a launch as well. You can test out different rpm limits, whichever one gives you the least wheelspin and the best 60' times is your winner.

[haladafs]

Originally Posted by skysky

I think you're getting them confused.

You set the Two step at a launch rpm. Your not spooling up to make power, your limiting your rpm at launch so you launch in a controlled fashion without wheel spin. Its the same thing as holding your launch rpm, but instead of feathering the throttle you just floor it, its stops at 2300 rpm let the clutch out and go. It makes launching more consistent because your not blipping or dropping your rpm on launch, it also can limit your rpm to a certain speed so that your engine fully revs when you have traction. So instead of flooring it and spinning, letting off, flooring it again and spinning, letting of again, then shifting to second. You can floor it, drop the clutch, rpm is limited to say 3k till you hit 15 mph then it cuts out and revs all the way.

If you've ever watched a drag car start popping and hitting a rev limit just before launch, your usually watching a two step. Those cars make shit tons of power, you can't honestly think they are launching at a full rev limit. They hit their two step rev limit at their optimal launch rpm. On a FWD car anything we can get to help with traction and launch I'll take. A two step lets you dial in a launch as well. You can test out different rpm limits, whichever one gives you the least wheelspin and the best 60' times is your winner.

The guy looked to do this IS boosted, and the 2 step DOES allow him to build boost. My friend has a wot box on his srt. It allows you to build boost before the launch as well, so that you have more power off the line instead of waiting for the turbo to have to fully spool. I go to the track once a month, I know what it is. Why would I think they're launching at redline lul.

[skysky]

Well some people you know. Anyway, we don't need it to spool up but it would still help with launches regardless. As far as spooling the 4g before launch, I'm with you. The only way I could really see doing that would be if your running slicks and the lsd. Otherwise like you said, you'll just be spinning.

[joeyb]

oh man - that would explain the sweet camero that had one of these at the last meet! I heared him rolling slow and his turbo boost way up then just SHOOT the FUCK away like being launched off an aircraft carrier. I was like 'holy fuck me gently we a pick ax what the fuck was that? how he do that?" makes me want one.....damn it WAS sweet, no doubt about that....