Is a Cat delete worth it? - Club4G Forum : Mitsubishi Eclipse 4G Forums - 2006-2012 Eclipse Authority

HomesickAlien · August 25th, 2011, 11:52 PM

I'm about to order a Cat Delete pipe but I figured I'd ask you all knowing helpful sons of bitches first -- is a Cat Delete really worth it? It seems like it would be -- especially for $44.00.

But what ate the downsides? What about you guys with the delete do you like it? I believe Dax or Nitro one has one but I can't remember which....

So anybody with any experience, if you could throw some help and knowledge my way it'd be greatly appreciated....

MFTK · August 26th, 2011, 12:37 AM

I didnt like it. I switched to a high flow cat. On my 99 havent done it to this one. Made my 99 sound very ricey

OrangeDemon · August 26th, 2011, 12:45 AM

it also will not pass emissions

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeDemon

it also will not pass emissions

You sure? I've heard if several Eclipse owners passing emissions with no cats....

MFTK · August 26th, 2011, 03:14 AM

May depend on the state? I no in ny u need a cat

Steveo · August 26th, 2011, 03:19 AM

It will depend on the state...I like not having mine it will sound a lil ricey but wit my hks I love it..I can tell the difference in power also but I did take all 3 out.

SMeclipseGT · August 26th, 2011, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

It will depend on the state...I like not having mine it will sound a lil ricey but wit my hks I love it..I can tell the difference in power also but I did take all 3 out.

sameeeeeee

muscles · August 26th, 2011, 06:24 AM

Ha straight piped mine. As long as you have a good muffler it will sound good. I don't have to worry about emissions.

NitroGlisson · August 26th, 2011, 08:50 AM

I have a racing cat and it made a heck of a difference. When it is time for inspection here I have it setup with flanges and can swap in a regular cat to allow me to pass. In NC they stick that anal probe thing up your exhaust pipe

Don't you think that is proof that aliens have infiltrated our population?

dejectedangle · August 26th, 2011, 10:03 AM

Is a cat delete worth it?
Do you take it deep?
Well there's your answer!!!!

I'm sorry I had to

Don't do delete buy a high flow you will be much happier good luck man do a b4 and after sound clip

JoeyC · August 26th, 2011, 11:13 AM

well heres my cons about it:
-smells super gassy!
-loud as hell!
-and mitsubishi said they wont work on any car without cats its illegal and a huge huge fine!
MY PROS-well not sure -hopen im getin more power?
-loud as fuck!
-no cats=riden dirty-

jarhead0321usmc · August 26th, 2011, 01:15 PM

So how can you say no with all those pros?

akley88 · August 26th, 2011, 01:51 PM

i have no cats and mine isnt loud. i did replace the factory resonator with a magnaflow one though and i have a magnaflow muffler. as far as the gas smell goes, i dont smell it.

Steveo · August 26th, 2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyC

well heres my cons about it:
-smells super gassy!
-loud as hell!
-and mitsubishi said they wont work on any car without cats its illegal and a huge huge fine!
MY PROS-well not sure -hopen im getin more power?
-loud as fuck!
-no cats=riden dirty-

Haha I would never let mitsubishi work on my car anyways.

MFTK · August 26th, 2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveo

Haha I would never let mitsubishi work on my car anyways.

x2

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroGlisson

I have a racing cat and it made a heck of a difference. When it is time for inspection here I have it setup with flanges and can swap in a regular cat to allow me to pass. In NC they stick that anal probe thing up your exhaust pipe

Don't you think that is proof that aliens have infiltrated our population?

What kind of racing cat do you have?

NitroGlisson · August 26th, 2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HomesickAlien

What kind of racing cat do you have?

Got it from the magni-flow website. Will try and find it...but no promises. It looks just like any other cat but you could watch TV trough it....the catalyst is a tube...wide open through the center.

This is the site I got it from.............

http://www.justmagnaflow.com/cgi-bin...aceSeries.html

JoeyC · August 26th, 2011, 04:01 PM

well shit my cars broke if yall dont smell anything -lol mine will male u pass out standing behind it! it could be the 3" exhaust lol yah yah i only need 2 " blah blah i know what im doin though!

akley88 · August 26th, 2011, 05:12 PM

ive been told mine smells like fuel. and i know its dirty cause if i clean the tip it is solid black in under a week. i just dont worry about it cause we dont have sniffer tests.

joeyb · August 26th, 2011, 05:37 PM

also remember man you will throw codes if you go w/ no cat....if you don't care about that then fine, but just keep that in mind. you could fix them with the F/IC or maybe fool with some spacers in some sort of config, but you'd have to work to get them to go away I do believe.
just my 2 cents. you'll sure gain some flow and some sound - but like ross and others are saying, it's mainly about the muffler that's going to give you the sweet or shitty note in the end

Mattman · August 26th, 2011, 06:01 PM

i thought the cool kids are running the magnaflow cat converter thing available on their website? I think some are doing straight pipes and deleting the whole thing, depends on local laws.

subscribed incase any cool info i dont know is shared

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 06:30 PM

I just bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...#ht_1635wt_722

Is that like yours Nitro? Or does yours at least pretend to be a real cat?

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 06:31 PM

And for us GSers what pipe size do we need? 2.25 or 2.50?

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:03 PM

Or basically, if I order a racing cat, what size do I need? 2.25? 2.50? 3.00? Does it matter?

akley88 · August 26th, 2011, 07:05 PM

2.25 is factory size piping. if you are upgrading your exhaust, you could go 2.5 if you do the whole exhaust.

MFTK · August 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM

2.25 is ur stock size... if u want the cat to bolt right on then stay same but if u welding anyways go with 2.5

MFTK · August 26th, 2011, 07:08 PM

akley beat me lol

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFTK

2.25 is ur stock size... if u want the cat to bolt right on then stay same but if u welding anyways go with 2.5

My cat is welded on not bolted already, so they're gonna have to cut it off. So you're saying even though the piping is 2.25, a 2.5 will fit? Are there any advantages to getting a 2.5?

Thanks for the info....

akley88 · August 26th, 2011, 07:18 PM

if your not upgrading your pipe size just get a 2.25

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akley88

if your not upgrading your pipe size just get a 2.25

Thanks.

I can tell you just about anything going on up front, but I'm lost when it comes to exhaust. I got a bad ass exhaust got it put on and have left it alone pretty much until now haha....

FeaRlezZ · August 26th, 2011, 07:23 PM

is that a high flow cat u bought ???

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

is that a high flow cat u bought ???

It's called a 'non-cat'. Did you look at it? It looks like a cat from the outside but it's really a straight through pipe cat delete....pretty clever ; )

FeaRlezZ · August 26th, 2011, 07:26 PM

but u still wont pass inspection ???

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

but u still wont pass inspection ???

I would say hell no, but I don't know -- I've heard several Eclipse owners with cat-deletes say they've passed inspection.

Can any of my North Carolina brethren help me here?

FeaRlezZ · August 26th, 2011, 07:29 PM

im bout to get a magnaflow high flow cat
Vibrant Performance High Flow Catalytic Converter 2.25 inch inlet 7001

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

im bout to get a magnaflow high flow cat
Vibrant Performance High Flow Catalytic Converter 2.25 inch inlet 7001

That's probably what I'll end up doing. But I can't decide between that style or Magnaflow's new 200-cell spun substrate model. I would think the 200-cell would allow more flow. It says it flows in the 596 CFM range -- whatever that means. I'm guessing it's good since that's what they're touting on the advertisement.

Can someone enlighten me?

FeaRlezZ · August 26th, 2011, 07:39 PM

^ hmmm that does look good. not to many places sell it i found one $95 free shipping

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:45 PM

Go go hottexhaust.com. Magnaflow sent me there from their website as an authorized dealer, they have a million of them for really good prices.

FeaRlezZ · August 26th, 2011, 07:53 PM

some cool pics
Magnaflow 2.5" High-Flow Cat

HomesickAlien · August 26th, 2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

some cool pics
Magnaflow 2.5" High-Flow Cat

I think that's the one I'm going to get.

The only one that's 2.25 is only 8" long. The 2.5 one is 11" inches long -- since it has to be welded anyway, would that work with my piping?

August 25th, 2011, 11:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Is a Cat delete worth it? I'm about to order a Cat Delete pipe but I figured I'd ask you all knowing helpful sons of bitches first -- is a Cat Delete really worth it? It seems like it would be -- especially for $44.00. But what ate the downsides? What about you guys with the delete do you like it? I believe Dax or Nitro one has one but I can't remember which.... So anybody with any experience, if you could throw some help and knowledge my way it'd be greatly appreciated.... __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

August 26th, 2011, 12:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
OrangeDemon Two Tone is new age Name: Jason Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Medina, Ohio Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT-N Posts: 2,694 Rep Power: 4	it also will not pass emissions __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...ons-06-gt.html

August 26th, 2011, 03:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Steveo Huge Member Name: Steve Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa FL Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT-N Posts: 1,904 Rep Power: 4	It will depend on the state...I like not having mine it will sound a lil ricey but wit my hks I love it..I can tell the difference in power also but I did take all 3 out. __________________ Full Bolt On + Zex 75 wet shot ~ 353WHP~~327lbs TQ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...ates-ride.html RIP Matt (bullet06) A great man you were.

August 26th, 2011, 06:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
muscles Black Irish Name: Ross Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south carolina Vehicle: 2006/eclipse/gs Posts: 3,222 Rep Power: 6	Ha straight piped mine. As long as you have a good muffler it will sound good. I don't have to worry about emissions. __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...cles-whip.html. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/391606...hback-coupe-3d

August 26th, 2011, 08:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
NitroGlisson Soon to be SC'd :) Name: Don Glisson Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 25,382 Rep Power: 30	I have a racing cat and it made a heck of a difference. When it is time for inspection here I have it setup with flanges and can swap in a regular cat to allow me to pass. In NC they stick that anal probe thing up your exhaust pipe Don't you think that is proof that aliens have infiltrated our population? __________________ Mods: Nitro's Little Girl With Attitude

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August 26th, 2011, 12:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
MFTK Got Stance??? i dont :( Name: Dann Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LongIsland NY Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,464 Rep Power: 3	I didnt like it. I switched to a high flow cat. On my 99 havent done it to this one. Made my 99 sound very ricey

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MFTK Got Stance??? i dont :( Name: Dann Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LongIsland NY Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,464 Rep Power: 3	May depend on the state? I no in ny u need a cat

August 26th, 2011, 10:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
dejectedangle OWNER OF C4G Name: Rick Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Connecticut/ NY Vehicle: 2008 GT-SC Posts: 2,902 Rep Power: 6	Is a cat delete worth it? Do you take it deep? Well there's your answer!!!! I'm sorry I had to Don't do delete buy a high flow you will be much happier good luck man do a b4 and after sound clip __________________ THE FIRST EVER 4G RUNNING STG 3 SUPERCHARGER TEAM BIG SUPERCHARGEERS Last edited by dejectedangle; August 26th, 2011 at 10:06 AM.

August 26th, 2011, 11:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
JoeyC -cruzer- Name: joeyc Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2006 ECLIPSE GT Posts: 1,579 Rep Power: 3	well heres my cons about it: -smells super gassy! -loud as hell! -and mitsubishi said they wont work on any car without cats its illegal and a huge huge fine! MY PROS-well not sure -hopen im getin more power? -loud as fuck! -no cats=riden dirty- __________________

August 26th, 2011, 01:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
jarhead0321usmc Celer, Silens, Mortalis Name: Rob Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maine Vehicle: 2006 GT Posts: 1,041 Rep Power: 3	So how can you say no with all those pros? __________________ "If you teabag someone with a nut allergy is that attempted murder?" -J Chris Newberg

August 26th, 2011, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	i have no cats and mine isnt loud. i did replace the factory resonator with a magnaflow one though and i have a magnaflow muffler. as far as the gas smell goes, i dont smell it. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

August 26th, 2011, 04:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
JoeyC -cruzer- Name: joeyc Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2006 ECLIPSE GT Posts: 1,579 Rep Power: 3	well shit my cars broke if yall dont smell anything -lol mine will male u pass out standing behind it! it could be the 3" exhaust lol yah yah i only need 2 " blah blah i know what im doin though! __________________

August 26th, 2011, 05:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	ive been told mine smells like fuel. and i know its dirty cause if i clean the tip it is solid black in under a week. i just dont worry about it cause we dont have sniffer tests. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

August 26th, 2011, 05:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	also remember man you will throw codes if you go w/ no cat....if you don't care about that then fine, but just keep that in mind. you could fix them with the F/IC or maybe fool with some spacers in some sort of config, but you'd have to work to get them to go away I do believe. just my 2 cents. you'll sure gain some flow and some sound - but like ross and others are saying, it's mainly about the muffler that's going to give you the sweet or shitty note in the end __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

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Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans / Texas Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 5,606 Rep Power: 17	i thought the cool kids are running the magnaflow cat converter thing available on their website? I think some are doing straight pipes and deleting the whole thing, depends on local laws. subscribed incase any cool info i dont know is shared __________________ Selling E4E rear and sides, will need to be refinished and repainted. Pm me

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HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	I just bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...#ht_1635wt_722 Is that like yours Nitro? Or does yours at least pretend to be a real cat? __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

August 26th, 2011, 06:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	And for us GSers what pipe size do we need? 2.25 or 2.50? __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

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HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Or basically, if I order a racing cat, what size do I need? 2.25? 2.50? 3.00? Does it matter? __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

August 26th, 2011, 07:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	2.25 is factory size piping. if you are upgrading your exhaust, you could go 2.5 if you do the whole exhaust. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

August 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
MFTK Got Stance??? i dont :( Name: Dann Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LongIsland NY Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,464 Rep Power: 3	2.25 is ur stock size... if u want the cat to bolt right on then stay same but if u welding anyways go with 2.5

August 26th, 2011, 07:08 PM	#27 (permalink)
MFTK Got Stance??? i dont :( Name: Dann Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LongIsland NY Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,464 Rep Power: 3	akley beat me lol

August 26th, 2011, 07:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	if your not upgrading your pipe size just get a 2.25

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	is that a high flow cat u bought ??? __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	but u still wont pass inspection ??? __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	im bout to get a magnaflow high flow cat Vibrant Performance High Flow Catalytic Converter 2.25 inch inlet 7001 __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

August 26th, 2011, 07:39 PM	#37 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	^ hmmm that does look good. not to many places sell it i found one $95 free shipping __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

August 26th, 2011, 07:45 PM	#38 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Go go hottexhaust.com. Magnaflow sent me there from their website as an authorized dealer, they have a million of them for really good prices. __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

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FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	some cool pics Magnaflow 2.5" High-Flow Cat __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

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