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HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM

So, Ive got Energy Suspension Motor Mounts on the way....thank God. I just took a look under my car to try to familiarize myself with where/what I'd be working with, and my rear motor mount is just about falling apart. I couldn't see THAT well, but it looks like it's got a chunk either missing or badly damaged/torn from the rest of it.

It also looks like I underestimated the difficulty of this job, I did a lot of searching and found some good threads -- including PopsGT's thread -- but I still have a nagging feeling this is going to give me trouble so any tips/help is appreciated ; )

Asian Cracker · September 4th, 2011, 07:24 PM

I read it was fairly easy to do but didn't want to risk it so I just took it to a shop. Thank Gawd I did because I don't have a bushing press

229boss · September 4th, 2011, 07:29 PM

my question is what do i need to buy for these...i want some but i only see them for the gt

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asian Cracker

I read it was fairly easy to do but didn't want to risk it so I just took it to a shop. Thank Gawd I did because I don't have a bushing press

You don't have to, so I've been told on several threads here.

I hope not, because if so I'm effed in the A.

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 229boss

my question is what do i need to buy for these...i want some but i only see them for the gt

You need to buy....the motor mounts.

The GT ones fit the GS.

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 07:31 PM

Dammit! People were supposed to be answering MY questions in this thread!

229boss · September 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM

i had to ask cause i was gonna buy the ones u bought

Asian Cracker · September 4th, 2011, 08:56 PM

I was told I didn't need them either.... Didn't work for me, so thats why I took it to the shop.

roman lujan · September 4th, 2011, 09:19 PM

Have plenty of extension and a new style of wrenches the ones that ratchs and a cupple of c-clamps and boards to press them mount and bushing Together which is a pain and the back motor mount is really hard to get out I had to lift the motor to the front some what and remove the intake so you can get to the bolt ont the top and side and bottom bolts on the rear mount. Have a good jack and jackstands.

FeaRlezZ · September 4th, 2011, 09:21 PM

rear sux yes

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roman lujan

Have plenty of extension and a new style of wrenches the ones that ratchs and a cupple of c-clamps and boards to press them mount and bushing Together which is a pain and the back motor mount is really hard to get out I had to lift the motor to the front some what and remove the intake so you can get to the bolt ont the top and side and bottom bolts on the rear mount. Have a good jack and jackstands.

Good to know, thanks bro....

FeaRlezZ · September 4th, 2011, 09:23 PM

how much did a shop charge u lisa ??

Asian Cracker · September 4th, 2011, 09:29 PM

40 bucks.

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asian Cracker

40 bucks.

Dang, if I can find a place to do it that cheap I'll go that route in a hot minute. Everything I've read has said this install is just short of Hell -- so forty bucks? Hells yeah.

Ricoswave · September 4th, 2011, 09:55 PM

This is cake.

Get a scissor jack or something along those lines. To access the rear motor mount, you have to remove the bolts first from both the front motor mount, and then the rear motor mount. This allows the motor to rock back and forth, still held up by the transmission mount and the passenger side motor mount. I strongly recommend lightly supporting the engine with a block of wood under the oil pan, to keep the engine from rocking too violently.

The idea to access the back mount is to use the scissor jack to carefully jack the motor toward the front of the car, by putting the scissor jack between the subframe, and a strong spot on the engine/trans. Once the motor is rocked forward as far as it will go (you will be making light contact with the radiator I believe), you will have much more room to carefully remove the rear motor mount pedistal. You will need ratcheting open ended wrenches for sure. Just remember to be VERY careful when jacking the motor, I used several blocks of wood as an insurance policy if the jack shifted. Take you're time, be patient, and it won't be so bad.

The way the car responds is awesome.

Ricoswave · September 4th, 2011, 09:58 PM

Oh and as far as the press.....

You can sledgehammer the piss out of the old bushings to get them out. No fun but effective. If the sledge doesn't work you can do what I did and burn the fucker out with a blowtorch.

As for the new ones, some lube and a nice big slegde and you should be alright.
If you have access to a huge C-Clamp, those work decent as a press as well.

HomesickAlien · September 4th, 2011, 10:50 PM

Sweet. Appreciate the info homie. I need all the help I can get....

joeyb · September 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM

here you go man:

Energy Suspension Bushings And Motor Mounts

read everything in there. I also have some pictures and tips on my build thread if you want more. 3rd or 4th page I think. just use the link in the parts list in the first post.

HomesickAlien · September 5th, 2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyb

here you go man:

Energy Suspension Bushings And Motor Mounts

read everything in there. I also have some pictures and tips on my build thread if you want more. 3rd or 4th page I think. just use the link in the parts list in the first post.

Thanks buddy.

I've read this thread about five tines and think it will probably be my guiding light throughout the install.

I also read your thread which had sine good info as well.

I'll keep you guys posted when I start the install and any problems I run into.

Thanks dudes....

roy_robinsonV · September 9th, 2011, 07:03 PM

motor mounts r a pain in the dick w/o a press i did mine and ended up cutting out the stock rubber and having the boys at carquest press em in for 10 bucks

FeaRlezZ · September 9th, 2011, 07:12 PM

luckily i have a press at my work . . but idk y the rear mount scares the hell outta me lol just the fact i have to tilt the engine forward

Clovisman · September 17th, 2011, 05:01 PM

When all else fails, the service manual usually takes the fear out of the job

.

Power Plant Mount: ENGINE ROLL STOPPER AND CENTERMEMBER Page 32-9
http://tearstone.com/eclipsefsm/2006...0004700-32.pdf

The front mount is very easy, the rear is a little more of a pain but not that hard. Total job should take about 2 to 4 hours depending on tools and abilities.

Once you have the mount/s out, remove the old rubber mount material. Saw through the inner ring carefully as not to cut into the outer mounting ring. Pry the old mounting ring out. Lube both mounting surface and new mount with some polyuetane grease, place mount on the floor and press new mount in with the palm of your hand. Reinstall mount according to service manual. Don't forget to use a torque wrench!! these parts are under a lot of stress and we don't want bolts coming loose and brakets cracking, or over-torquing bolts and them snapping off under stress!!

A little how to by RRE, and NO, you don't need a hyd press to install the new mounts.
RRE's 4G 2006 Eclipse Energy Suspension Motor Mount Installation Information

Sorry I'm late to chime in, you probably have the job done all ready.

HomesickAlien · September 17th, 2011, 08:47 PM

Better late than never ; )

I always appreciate your input Clovis!

jasondhimself · September 19th, 2011, 10:26 AM

So let me get this straight before i go ordering stuff that I can't use or don't need, the Energy Suspension Motor Mounts fit the GS? I want to order them, short shifter, and shifter stabilizer bushings. I can get it done all at the some time.

FeaRlezZ · September 19th, 2011, 10:46 AM

^ do it all. u gain much more control over the vehicle and much less hop and roll

dsm2mivec · September 19th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Is there a substitute for the side mount specifically the tranny mount?

joeyb · September 19th, 2011, 03:39 PM

^I do not believe so. I have never seen one, at least.

dsm2mivec · September 19th, 2011, 05:55 PM

Would the poly urethane ones not work bc they look like the same size

September 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Motor Mounts -- tips welcome! So, Ive got Energy Suspension Motor Mounts on the way....thank God. I just took a look under my car to try to familiarize myself with where/what I'd be working with, and my rear motor mount is just about falling apart. I couldn't see THAT well, but it looks like it's got a chunk either missing or badly damaged/torn from the rest of it. It also looks like I underestimated the difficulty of this job, I did a lot of searching and found some good threads -- including PopsGT's thread -- but I still have a nagging feeling this is going to give me trouble so any tips/help is appreciated ; ) __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

September 4th, 2011, 07:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Asian Cracker Queen Goon Tournaments Won: 3 Name: Lisa Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio Vehicle: 06/Eclipse GT Posts: 11,370 Rep Power: 75	I read it was fairly easy to do but didn't want to risk it so I just took it to a shop. Thank Gawd I did because I don't have a bushing press __________________ Chaos - lisa i like your car a lot. Here's why, the black says ill fuck you up if you try to mess with me but the pink accents tells me that you'll cuddle afterwards -Mods: SRI, Exhaust, Headers, Stiffy, Rear Sway bar, Motor Mount, Reflashed Ecu, Black -Pink Rims , Spoiler,Painted tail lights, 2% Tint Tein Springs,-

September 4th, 2011, 07:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
229boss Senior Member Name: James Alphadawg Jones Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: jacksonville , florida Vehicle: 2007 eclipse spyder gs Posts: 657 Rep Power: 2	my question is what do i need to buy for these...i want some but i only see them for the gt __________________ DC SPORTS CAI....PIAA LIGHTS....DRL MOD......RALLIART EYELIDS....FLAT BLACK PAINTED STOCKERS.....NEXT MOD??? FLAT BLACK PAINT JOB AND WHEELS!!!!

September 4th, 2011, 07:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Dammit! People were supposed to be answering MY questions in this thread! __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

September 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
229boss Senior Member Name: James Alphadawg Jones Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: jacksonville , florida Vehicle: 2007 eclipse spyder gs Posts: 657 Rep Power: 2	i had to ask cause i was gonna buy the ones u bought __________________ DC SPORTS CAI....PIAA LIGHTS....DRL MOD......RALLIART EYELIDS....FLAT BLACK PAINTED STOCKERS.....NEXT MOD??? FLAT BLACK PAINT JOB AND WHEELS!!!!

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September 4th, 2011, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Asian Cracker Queen Goon Tournaments Won: 3 Name: Lisa Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio Vehicle: 06/Eclipse GT Posts: 11,370 Rep Power: 75	I was told I didn't need them either.... Didn't work for me, so thats why I took it to the shop. __________________ Chaos - lisa i like your car a lot. Here's why, the black says ill fuck you up if you try to mess with me but the pink accents tells me that you'll cuddle afterwards -Mods: SRI, Exhaust, Headers, Stiffy, Rear Sway bar, Motor Mount, Reflashed Ecu, Black -Pink Rims , Spoiler,Painted tail lights, 2% Tint Tein Springs,-

September 4th, 2011, 09:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
roman lujan Trying to be fully built Name: Roman Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: odessa tx Vehicle: 2007/eclipse/gs Posts: 1,213 Rep Power: 4	Have plenty of extension and a new style of wrenches the ones that ratchs and a cupple of c-clamps and boards to press them mount and bushing Together which is a pain and the back motor mount is really hard to get out I had to lift the motor to the front some what and remove the intake so you can get to the bolt ont the top and side and bottom bolts on the rear mount. Have a good jack and jackstands. __________________ mods/ obxr lt header/es motor mounts/cold air intake/megan racing catback/ rre und pully/gt tb/stage one delta cam/ aem fic/ msr stlye 44 rims/tein stechmods i have waiting to be put in stage 2 cam/ manly rods/ apr head and mian studs/ wisco pistions/in need of a nitrious kit/ head/intake manifold

September 4th, 2011, 09:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	rear sux yes __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

September 4th, 2011, 09:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	how much did a shop charge u lisa ?? __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

September 4th, 2011, 09:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Asian Cracker Queen Goon Tournaments Won: 3 Name: Lisa Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio Vehicle: 06/Eclipse GT Posts: 11,370 Rep Power: 75	40 bucks. __________________ Chaos - lisa i like your car a lot. Here's why, the black says ill fuck you up if you try to mess with me but the pink accents tells me that you'll cuddle afterwards -Mods: SRI, Exhaust, Headers, Stiffy, Rear Sway bar, Motor Mount, Reflashed Ecu, Black -Pink Rims , Spoiler,Painted tail lights, 2% Tint Tein Springs,-

September 4th, 2011, 09:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ricoswave Lathe Master Join Date: Nov 2007 Vehicle: 05 Lancer Evolution Posts: 3,726 Rep Power: 10	This is cake. Get a scissor jack or something along those lines. To access the rear motor mount, you have to remove the bolts first from both the front motor mount, and then the rear motor mount. This allows the motor to rock back and forth, still held up by the transmission mount and the passenger side motor mount. I strongly recommend lightly supporting the engine with a block of wood under the oil pan, to keep the engine from rocking too violently. The idea to access the back mount is to use the scissor jack to carefully jack the motor toward the front of the car, by putting the scissor jack between the subframe, and a strong spot on the engine/trans. Once the motor is rocked forward as far as it will go (you will be making light contact with the radiator I believe), you will have much more room to carefully remove the rear motor mount pedistal. You will need ratcheting open ended wrenches for sure. Just remember to be VERY careful when jacking the motor, I used several blocks of wood as an insurance policy if the jack shifted. Take you're time, be patient, and it won't be so bad. The way the car responds is awesome. __________________ Mods: Progress Lowering Springs, Fujita CAI, Full 2.5" Stainless Exhaust, Aero Turbine 2540I Muffler, Ripp Long Tube Headers (SES Free), Dynomax High Flow Cat, Thrush Stainless Resonator, Ripp Poly Motor Mounts, Glowshift Gauge Pod and Gauges, GTech SS, Custom Glass Radiator Hose, TWM GS Short Shifter w/ custom reverse lockout, TB Bypass, Red Neon Decklid

September 4th, 2011, 09:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ricoswave Lathe Master Join Date: Nov 2007 Vehicle: 05 Lancer Evolution Posts: 3,726 Rep Power: 10	Oh and as far as the press..... You can sledgehammer the piss out of the old bushings to get them out. No fun but effective. If the sledge doesn't work you can do what I did and burn the fucker out with a blowtorch. As for the new ones, some lube and a nice big slegde and you should be alright. If you have access to a huge C-Clamp, those work decent as a press as well. __________________ Mods: Progress Lowering Springs, Fujita CAI, Full 2.5" Stainless Exhaust, Aero Turbine 2540I Muffler, Ripp Long Tube Headers (SES Free), Dynomax High Flow Cat, Thrush Stainless Resonator, Ripp Poly Motor Mounts, Glowshift Gauge Pod and Gauges, GTech SS, Custom Glass Radiator Hose, TWM GS Short Shifter w/ custom reverse lockout, TB Bypass, Red Neon Decklid

September 4th, 2011, 10:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Sweet. Appreciate the info homie. I need all the help I can get.... __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

September 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	here you go man: Energy Suspension Bushings And Motor Mounts read everything in there. I also have some pictures and tips on my build thread if you want more. 3rd or 4th page I think. just use the link in the parts list in the first post. __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

September 9th, 2011, 07:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
roy_robinsonV fastest 4g in colorado Name: roy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: denver Vehicle: 08 gt Posts: 1,992 Rep Power: 5	motor mounts r a pain in the dick w/o a press i did mine and ended up cutting out the stock rubber and having the boys at carquest press em in for 10 bucks

September 9th, 2011, 07:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	luckily i have a press at my work . . but idk y the rear mount scares the hell outta me lol just the fact i have to tilt the engine forward __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

September 17th, 2011, 05:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
Clovisman Senior Member Name: John Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Clovis, NM Vehicle: 2007 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,045 Rep Power: 6	When all else fails, the service manual usually takes the fear out of the job . Power Plant Mount: ENGINE ROLL STOPPER AND CENTERMEMBER Page 32-9 http://tearstone.com/eclipsefsm/2006...0004700-32.pdf The front mount is very easy, the rear is a little more of a pain but not that hard. Total job should take about 2 to 4 hours depending on tools and abilities. Once you have the mount/s out, remove the old rubber mount material. Saw through the inner ring carefully as not to cut into the outer mounting ring. Pry the old mounting ring out. Lube both mounting surface and new mount with some polyuetane grease, place mount on the floor and press new mount in with the palm of your hand. Reinstall mount according to service manual. Don't forget to use a torque wrench!! these parts are under a lot of stress and we don't want bolts coming loose and brakets cracking, or over-torquing bolts and them snapping off under stress!! A little how to by RRE, and NO, you don't need a hyd press to install the new mounts. RRE's 4G 2006 Eclipse Energy Suspension Motor Mount Installation Information Sorry I'm late to chime in, you probably have the job done all ready. __________________ 2007 Eclipse GT=Sunset=Auto--20% Tint=Injen CAI=RIPP Long Tube Headers (Jet-Hot Coated)=RIPP High Flow Cat=RIPP BRAT Box=Magnaflow Cat Back Exhaust=Energy Motor Mounts=Ingalls Stiffy=Megan Coilover Suspension=Progress Rear Sway Bar=SP Performance Diamond Cut & Slotted Rotors=EBC Yellow Stuff Kevlar Pads=Diamond Lower Grill=Konig Illusion Wheels=BF Goodrich G-Force Super Sport Tires Last edited by Clovisman; September 17th, 2011 at 05:06 PM.

September 17th, 2011, 08:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Better late than never ; ) I always appreciate your input Clovis! __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

September 19th, 2011, 10:26 AM	#24 (permalink)
jasondhimself Dexy's Driver Name: Jay Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GS Posts: 168 Rep Power: 1	So let me get this straight before i go ordering stuff that I can't use or don't need, the Energy Suspension Motor Mounts fit the GS? I want to order them, short shifter, and shifter stabilizer bushings. I can get it done all at the some time.

September 19th, 2011, 10:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	^ do it all. u gain much more control over the vehicle and much less hop and roll __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

September 19th, 2011, 03:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
dsm2mivec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Vehicle: 06 Mitsu Eclipse GS Posts: 1,233 Rep Power: 3	Is there a substitute for the side mount specifically the tranny mount? __________________

September 19th, 2011, 03:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	^I do not believe so. I have never seen one, at least. __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

September 19th, 2011, 05:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
dsm2mivec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Vehicle: 06 Mitsu Eclipse GS Posts: 1,233 Rep Power: 3	Would the poly urethane ones not work bc they look like the same size __________________

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