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ice raptor · October 28th, 2011, 04:13 PM

so im going to be doing a plug and possible wires tune up soon and since im taking the IM off was wondering what exactly the IM spacers do for you? ive never really understood them so just curious why people like that and what they do.

FeaRlezZ · October 28th, 2011, 04:19 PM

only thing u can get is a thermoblock gasket from race performance works

fox_brand · October 28th, 2011, 04:32 PM

^not so, Outlaw Engineering actually makes them, RPW is one of there vendors they sell to, I can say this with 100% confidence because RPW has on there FAQ, DYI install page for the Phenolic intake manifold spacers a photoshopped version of what Outlaw has of what there gasket kit contains
case in point
outlaw's image

rpw's image

by all means, I'm not saying that RPW ripps off Outlaw's products or that they are a bad vendor, just that with those specific products, they are the same, so the question is, would you rather pay for something, have it shipped to you in about a week, or buy the same product, pay for international shipping+regular shipping, wait for it to be shipped to the states, then wait for it to make it through customs, then wait for it to get to you?

NitroGlisson · October 28th, 2011, 04:33 PM

It provides a thermal barrier so that heat is not transferred from the block to the intake and the one on the TB prevents the intake from passing heat to the TB. It allows for a colder-denser mixture of fuel/air to enter the engine...which is always a good thing.

dejectedangle · October 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM

You mean coil packs? Not wires

FeaRlezZ · October 28th, 2011, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fox_brand

my rpw dont look like that . . but anyways the point is thermoblock spacers r the option u have

FeaRlezZ · October 28th, 2011, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ice raptor

so im going to be doing a plug and possible wires tune up soon and since im taking the IM off was wondering what exactly the IM spacers do for you? ive never really understood them so just curious why people like that and what they do.

and ur not going one step colder with the plugs r u ??? i never understand y people do that on NA cars. ours and most others would lose some hp from going one step colder

joeyb · October 28th, 2011, 05:49 PM

I love my spacers. they work for sure. good for at least a few ponies. all the small stuff adds up. works really well when the car is cold.

ice raptor · October 28th, 2011, 06:59 PM

so how much are they and there worth the money getting them?

joeyb · October 28th, 2011, 07:41 PM

^for sure worth it. I want to say like $150 or so.

bullet06 · October 28th, 2011, 07:49 PM

Outlaw Engineering

I paid 135 shipped 3 years ago. There 109+s/h know never heard anyone say anything bad about them. I like mine!

fox_brand · October 28th, 2011, 07:50 PM

qoute off of Outlaw's website is $109 for the part + $8 to ship

ice raptor · October 28th, 2011, 09:06 PM

guess my next tune up might be more expensive then i thought lol

ill see if i cant buy it soon. getting a new stereo in her within this coming week so thats my first upgrade. I NEED MY IPOD lol

Lvcien · October 28th, 2011, 09:30 PM

I just bought mine from outlaw engineering on saturday - cost 117 shipped. Took them 4 days to charge my card but they said they should be here by tues/wednesday. They said the kits are made to order.

FeaRlezZ · October 28th, 2011, 09:41 PM

does outlaw sell just the manifold or tb spacer alone ?? not the kit

ice raptor · October 29th, 2011, 09:58 AM

they have kits were you can buy both of them?

FeaRlezZ · October 29th, 2011, 10:03 AM

idk lol i went thru rpw so i have no idea

ice raptor · October 29th, 2011, 10:46 AM

so there both the same? rpw and outlaw?

FeaRlezZ · October 29th, 2011, 11:56 AM

idk. . if outlaw spacers actually look like those pics then no rpw is different

ice raptor · October 29th, 2011, 09:16 PM

which is the better to buy then?

FeaRlezZ · October 29th, 2011, 09:18 PM

im sure they both do the exact same thing but just go with outlaw because rpw is all the way in australia

snakeeyes · October 29th, 2011, 10:29 PM

i didnt have no im spacers but when it started dropping in the 50 degree range and you dont drive in bumper to bumper traffic everyday,removing the rear weather strip under the hood will keep your TB and im nice and cool.at least it did on my gs.so much in fact,it was making my car run hella rich !! i have since put it back on until the summer months come back around.i drove with it removed when it was in the 40's and my tb was ice cold.no bs ! i wouldnt advise this for the gs if you are not using a FI/C

ice raptor · October 30th, 2011, 10:24 AM

alright ill go with that then.

ice raptor · November 1st, 2011, 11:06 PM

just bought my outlaw spacers today!

cant wait to be getting them this week hopefully

joeyb · November 1st, 2011, 11:16 PM

^you should get colder/better spark plugs and do them at the same time. just a thought. guess it depends on how new yours are and how close to stock you are. may not want to go colder, actually

ice raptor · November 1st, 2011, 11:33 PM

im all stock other then these spacers im gonna be putting in and i plan on changing the plugs when i do this since the plenum is going to be ripped off anyway. im sure they need it by now and its always good practice to do a full tune up on a newly bought car no matter what they tell you. and from what im being told ill probably be buying new headers soon to keep that SES light off

Lvcien · November 2nd, 2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyb

^you should get colder/better spark plugs and do them at the same time. just a thought. guess it depends on how new yours are and how close to stock you are. may not want to go colder, actually

I've heard it both ways - these spacers will be my first mod and I'll continue with an intake next month, and continue from there..

I read that you'll loose HP unless highly modified...

My spacer kit arrived yesterday...

FeaRlezZ · November 2nd, 2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lvcien

I've heard it both ways - these spacers will be my first mod and I'll continue with an intake next month, and continue from there..

I read that you'll loose HP unless highly modified...

My spacer kit arrived yesterday...

u probably would lose 1-5hp

akley88 · November 2nd, 2011, 08:20 PM

you can also foul the plugs quicker when using colder plugs when not needed.

Lvcien · November 2nd, 2011, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeaRlezZ

u probably would lose 1-5hp

So even with a lot of bolt ons - there really isn't any benefit to going an additional step colder?

akley88 · November 2nd, 2011, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lvcien

So even with a lot of bolt ons - there really isn't any benefit to going an additional step colder?

only if you are using nitrous or are FI

ice raptor · November 2nd, 2011, 10:58 PM

yea ill be buying ngk's but not the step colder since the most ill be doing is new exhaust,headers,CAI and the spacers. i plan on turbo when i get my car paid off

October 28th, 2011, 04:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	IM spacers? so im going to be doing a plug and possible wires tune up soon and since im taking the IM off was wondering what exactly the IM spacers do for you? ive never really understood them so just curious why people like that and what they do.

October 28th, 2011, 04:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	only thing u can get is a thermoblock gasket from race performance works __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

October 28th, 2011, 04:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
NitroGlisson Soon to be SC'd :) Name: Don Glisson Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 25,382 Rep Power: 30	It provides a thermal barrier so that heat is not transferred from the block to the intake and the one on the TB prevents the intake from passing heat to the TB. It allows for a colder-denser mixture of fuel/air to enter the engine...which is always a good thing. __________________ Mods: Nitro's Little Girl With Attitude

October 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
dejectedangle OWNER OF C4G Name: Rick Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Connecticut/ NY Vehicle: 2008 GT-SC Posts: 2,902 Rep Power: 6	You mean coil packs? Not wires __________________ THE FIRST EVER 4G RUNNING STG 3 SUPERCHARGER TEAM BIG SUPERCHARGEERS

October 28th, 2011, 05:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	I love my spacers. they work for sure. good for at least a few ponies. all the small stuff adds up. works really well when the car is cold. __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

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October 28th, 2011, 04:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
fox_brand Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Vehicle: 1999 galant Posts: 129 Rep Power: 1	^not so, Outlaw Engineering actually makes them, RPW is one of there vendors they sell to, I can say this with 100% confidence because RPW has on there FAQ, DYI install page for the Phenolic intake manifold spacers a photoshopped version of what Outlaw has of what there gasket kit contains case in point outlaw's image rpw's image by all means, I'm not saying that RPW ripps off Outlaw's products or that they are a bad vendor, just that with those specific products, they are the same, so the question is, would you rather pay for something, have it shipped to you in about a week, or buy the same product, pay for international shipping+regular shipping, wait for it to be shipped to the states, then wait for it to make it through customs, then wait for it to get to you?

October 28th, 2011, 06:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	so how much are they and there worth the money getting them?

October 28th, 2011, 07:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	^for sure worth it. I want to say like $150 or so. __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

October 28th, 2011, 07:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
bullet06 x-street Name: Matt McAlear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Naples, Fl. Vehicle: 06/GT/AT Posts: 1,412 Rep Power: 5	Outlaw Engineering I paid 135 shipped 3 years ago. There 109+s/h know never heard anyone say anything bad about them. I like mine! __________________ BULLET's Modification Link!!! [^](",")[^] Last edited by bullet06; October 28th, 2011 at 07:53 PM.

October 28th, 2011, 07:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
fox_brand Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Vehicle: 1999 galant Posts: 129 Rep Power: 1	qoute off of Outlaw's website is $109 for the part + $8 to ship

October 28th, 2011, 09:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	guess my next tune up might be more expensive then i thought lol ill see if i cant buy it soon. getting a new stereo in her within this coming week so thats my first upgrade. I NEED MY IPOD lol

October 28th, 2011, 09:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lvcien Member Name: Chad Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fort Myers, FL Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT Posts: 50 Rep Power: 1	I just bought mine from outlaw engineering on saturday - cost 117 shipped. Took them 4 days to charge my card but they said they should be here by tues/wednesday. They said the kits are made to order.

October 28th, 2011, 09:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	does outlaw sell just the manifold or tb spacer alone ?? not the kit __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

October 29th, 2011, 09:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	they have kits were you can buy both of them?

October 29th, 2011, 10:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	idk lol i went thru rpw so i have no idea __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

October 29th, 2011, 10:46 AM	#18 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	so there both the same? rpw and outlaw?

October 29th, 2011, 11:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	idk. . if outlaw spacers actually look like those pics then no rpw is different __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

October 29th, 2011, 09:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	which is the better to buy then?

October 29th, 2011, 09:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
FeaRlezZ tUNED. Name: Brian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston, MA Vehicle: 2009 4G69 Posts: 2,999 Rep Power: 4	im sure they both do the exact same thing but just go with outlaw because rpw is all the way in australia __________________ AEM FIC / UEGO Wideband + POD / Custom Bolted

October 29th, 2011, 10:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
snakeeyes 4g Fanatic Name: Loves haters ! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: TN hills Vehicle: 09 5 speed manual Posts: 3,150 Rep Power: 5	i didnt have no im spacers but when it started dropping in the 50 degree range and you dont drive in bumper to bumper traffic everyday,removing the rear weather strip under the hood will keep your TB and im nice and cool.at least it did on my gs.so much in fact,it was making my car run hella rich !! i have since put it back on until the summer months come back around.i drove with it removed when it was in the 40's and my tb was ice cold.no bs ! i wouldnt advise this for the gs if you are not using a FI/C __________________ Modified

October 30th, 2011, 10:24 AM	#23 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	alright ill go with that then.

November 1st, 2011, 11:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	just bought my outlaw spacers today! cant wait to be getting them this week hopefully

November 1st, 2011, 11:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
joeyb Hard Core 4ger Name: Joe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norman, OK Vehicle: 08 Eclipse GT - SC Posts: 9,334 Rep Power: 14	^you should get colder/better spark plugs and do them at the same time. just a thought. guess it depends on how new yours are and how close to stock you are. may not want to go colder, actually __________________ "Has blower and many modifications." ~347 WHP / ~309 WTQ / ~6 lbs Boost

November 1st, 2011, 11:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	im all stock other then these spacers im gonna be putting in and i plan on changing the plugs when i do this since the plenum is going to be ripped off anyway. im sure they need it by now and its always good practice to do a full tune up on a newly bought car no matter what they tell you. and from what im being told ill probably be buying new headers soon to keep that SES light off

November 2nd, 2011, 08:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,698 Rep Power: 7	you can also foul the plugs quicker when using colder plugs when not needed. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

November 2nd, 2011, 10:58 PM	#32 (permalink)
ice raptor the town body man Name: Kelson Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: wisconsin Vehicle: 2006 eclipse GT Posts: 407 Rep Power: 1	yea ill be buying ngk's but not the step colder since the most ill be doing is new exhaust,headers,CAI and the spacers. i plan on turbo when i get my car paid off

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