So much bass I can't hear the lyrics

MarkGuutz · September 16th, 2008, 12:37 AM

I just got a 10" Jl w7 sub and I'll tell you that these things hit like there is tomorrow. Seriously will blow away 2 12's no problem, but the thing is once I turn it up I can't even hear the lyrics, just hear the bass. I have the RF speakers, an aftermarket deck, and 500w amp just dedicated to the sub. But the thing is my car didn't come with the rf package and I was wondering if I needed a seperate amp to power the speakers so I get the most out of them. What do you guys think?

Panicbutton · September 16th, 2008, 12:56 AM

ryanastyG4 · September 16th, 2008, 12:57 AM

iono what to tell you but listen to "hello brooklyn" even on low bass its too much bass

MarkGuutz · September 16th, 2008, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panicbutton

yup.

haha

horse-eater · September 16th, 2008, 06:22 AM

i had 2 w6v2's with a 1400 amp for a while, lets just say that my insides felt funny for about 2 hours after i would leave the car.

a friend of mine had 4 15 inch w6's in his impala. he would shake my windows from his end of the apartment complex...

liquidsilver · September 16th, 2008, 08:16 AM

She was sitting on me I thought she was fat but really I couldn't hear the bloody radio!

moja · September 16th, 2008, 06:15 PM

The stock speakers are flat. At least upgrade them and adjust the gain on your amp.

MarkGuutz · September 17th, 2008, 01:04 AM

anyone recommend certain any speakers?

NotUrAvg4G · September 17th, 2008, 05:19 PM

my 8w7 hits so hard and disgusting, people with 2 12's hate me. and thats just on a 500/1. not to mention i still have all my trunk space

Rodz · September 17th, 2008, 06:32 PM

Depending on what 12s

dc5jimbo · September 17th, 2008, 06:50 PM

so young so brave damn that rap music

wait is that how it goes ?

MarkGuutz · September 18th, 2008, 02:38 AM

i don't know what song you are talking about haha

Permastudent · September 21st, 2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dc5jimbo

so young so brave damn that rap music

wait is that how it goes ?

So young, so angry - damn that rap music.

As for the stereo, this is where I'll sound a bit preachy, but imho most people who add subs to their stereos are morons. They add these crazy-powerful subs with enough power to orbit Arnold Schwarzenegger...and use stock speakers powered off the head unit. EPIC FAIL.

Beyond that, if you're going to run something as absurd as a W7/L7, you *need* to upgrade your speakers and run them amp'd. I haven't done the real bass in my car yet (hopefully in Oct if time permits), but I swapped out the stocks w/ 2 pairs of Alpine SPX-17REF 6 3/4s. I just used the hardware they came with to make the rears faux-coax and the fronts are components and let me tell you...wow. Even in a Spyder (IE no top to keep the music in), it's just amazing the range/clarity.

For the bass I'm eying a Kicker L7 10" solobaric ported premade simply because it'll fit in the trunk and I can just pull it out if I need the space for some reason and deal with just the 8" (8w3v2 - sounds better than the retired 8w6...even before I inadvertently stuck my fingers through the *foam* cone...oy).

Short version: Get some *nice* speakers and amp them with a clean 4channel or you're going to be stuck with a horrible imbalance in sound.

MarkGuutz · September 21st, 2008, 06:21 PM

Thanks for the input. I was debating if I should go with components, but if you are going to go, might as well go big.

NotUrAvg4G · September 21st, 2008, 08:39 PM

well just to clarify, for everyone else with subs, you're not morons. And yes components do create an amazing soundfield, but if you just add the right sub you can make a very enjoyable listening experience.

b1gkishan · September 23rd, 2008, 03:47 PM

focal and boston acoustic are really good speakers

Rodz · September 23rd, 2008, 09:09 PM

Lots of good brands out there for speakers, it's a matter of taste.

Rainbow, Helix, Beyma, Image Dynamics are some really good brands. They are pricey but they are the at the top of speaker performance.

As far as sub drivers go, if you wanna go mainstream brand try to stick with their high end lines, not their low end: Kicker, JL, RF, MTX, etc.

I prefer non mainstream as they are cheaper that a comparable mainstream and usually have higher quality standards and better customer service: Fi Car Audio, DD, AudioQUe, AudioPulse, Image Dynamics, Sundown, just to name a few.

Mattman · October 8th, 2008, 05:20 PM

i have infinity, not expensive and sound great especially with the amp powering them

September 16th, 2008, 12:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 795 Rep Power: 37	So much bass I can't hear the lyrics I just got a 10" Jl w7 sub and I'll tell you that these things hit like there is tomorrow. Seriously will blow away 2 12's no problem, but the thing is once I turn it up I can't even hear the lyrics, just hear the bass. I have the RF speakers, an aftermarket deck, and 500w amp just dedicated to the sub. But the thing is my car didn't come with the rf package and I was wondering if I needed a seperate amp to power the speakers so I get the most out of them. What do you guys think?

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ryanastyG4 Papa Frijoles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: '07 Ultra Red Pearl GS Posts: 973 Rep Power: 10	iono what to tell you but listen to "hello brooklyn" even on low bass its too much bass

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liquidsilver Liquid Silver Hair Buzzed Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Vehicle: 07/GS/Spyder Posts: 2,170 Rep Power: 82	She was sitting on me I thought she was fat but really I couldn't hear the bloody radio!

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moja Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Vehicle: 2009 Eclipse GT Posts: 20 Rep Power: 1	The stock speakers are flat. At least upgrade them and adjust the gain on your amp.

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MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 795 Rep Power: 37	anyone recommend certain any speakers?

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Rodz Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 UV Blue GT m/t Posts: 147 Rep Power: 2	Depending on what 12s

September 18th, 2008, 02:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 795 Rep Power: 37	i don't know what song you are talking about haha

September 21st, 2008, 06:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 795 Rep Power: 37	Thanks for the input. I was debating if I should go with components, but if you are going to go, might as well go big.

September 21st, 2008, 08:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
NotUrAvg4G Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South FLorida Posts: 2,035 Rep Power: 7	well just to clarify, for everyone else with subs, you're not morons. And yes components do create an amazing soundfield, but if you just add the right sub you can make a very enjoyable listening experience. __________________ OMG...NO...not a....CIVIC

September 23rd, 2008, 03:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
b1gkishan Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Vehicle: 06 Gt 6spd Posts: 51 Rep Power: 1	focal and boston acoustic are really good speakers

September 23rd, 2008, 09:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
Rodz Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 UV Blue GT m/t Posts: 147 Rep Power: 2	Lots of good brands out there for speakers, it's a matter of taste. Rainbow, Helix, Beyma, Image Dynamics are some really good brands. They are pricey but they are the at the top of speaker performance. As far as sub drivers go, if you wanna go mainstream brand try to stick with their high end lines, not their low end: Kicker, JL, RF, MTX, etc. I prefer non mainstream as they are cheaper that a comparable mainstream and usually have higher quality standards and better customer service: Fi Car Audio, DD, AudioQUe, AudioPulse, Image Dynamics, Sundown, just to name a few.

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Mattman USMC Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dallas for now Vehicle: 08 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 601 Rep Power: 8	i have infinity, not expensive and sound great especially with the amp powering them __________________ MATTMOBILE GARAGE