Grounding Kit for the GT

[cruzer]

Anyone know where I can find a kit for our cars. I saw one member with a set on his in the other site but can't find him or where to buy the kit. Thanks

[Bart-man]

I think any grounding kit you buy will work with the GT.

[Leeclipse]

Here's mine.
If you just want the grounding kit I would suggest building your own. It's easier and you can get the colored wire you desire. I got the Apexi Super Ground as well because it helps get rid of noise on your 12vdc and connects between your positive terminal, nehative terminal, and alternator. The wires in red are my addition using 8g oxygen free braided cable I got from my local sound shop.



The way it is now

[Shapdog]

are you sure grounding kits are model specific?

[Leeclipse]

Those grounding kits that say they are model specific are full of bull. Other than the wires being cut to sizes that fit certain points on your engine you can get much higher quality cable, in the color of your choice, and do a much better job yourself.

They just want you to think your getting something specially made for your car and then charge you more.

[cruzer]

Thanks guys, I'll do my own, I've always thought one could do better on their own. I'll do some research on where to connect what to what and build from there.

[Shapdog]

make a write up of what you do for other's with the same interest. Like my self

[Leeclipse]

The main points you want to hook to are the chassis ground close to the battery, the manifold, the throttle body, the alternator, the gear box below the stock airbox. Everything else would be above and beyond.
When you run a cable to the chassis ground remember to file the paint away under the bolt so your connector is making contact with the chassis.

[cruzer]

Will do on the write up.
Leeclipse, did you feel any difference in power? From what i've read supposedly they free up horsepower and improve gas mileage. Is there any truth to that?

[Leeclipse]

They say they do and it makes sense that it would but I don't think you'll feel it.

If thats what your looking for then I wouldn't do it.
I did it because no matter if I felt it or not I knew it was better for my cars electrical system and my sound system.

[Manybrews]

complete waste of money.

[NotUrAvg4G]

all show..no go. looks nice tho.

[Shapdog]

The idea of a grounding kit is very new to me, infact I first heard about such a thing only 2 weeks ago. When people reffered to it i thought they were talking about ground effects.

Anyways, the man who intoroduced it to me said he's seen dyno's with 5whp gains, and claims on better gas milage. But I have never seen dyno's and know minimal about grounding kits. I am only told they are easy to do... but I still don't know anything toher than your ground certain points to the chassis and some kind of resistor controls the current throughought the system

[FLGTeclipse]

:: Ground Fusion ::

[cruzer]

Originally Posted by Shapdog

The idea of a grounding kit is very new to me, infact I first heard about such a thing only 2 weeks ago. When people reffered to it i thought they were talking about ground effects.

Anyways, the man who intoroduced it to me said he's seen dyno's with 5whp gains, and claims on better gas milage. But I have never seen dyno's and know minimal about grounding kits. I am only told they are easy to do... but I still don't know anything toher than your ground certain points to the chassis and some kind of resistor controls the current throughought the system

X2
With inpections and emissions here in PA, I can only do so much to get more HP and better gas mileage.

[Leeclipse]

I love the people that say it's useless.

You'll run a 4 guage cable from your battery to your audio amp and use gold connectors and then when you run your ground you take another cable and just hook it to a screw close to the amp.
There is just as much current flowing through the ground cable as the positive cable but we treat the ground like it's just something we have to connect.
Little things like that are what seperates incredible sound systems from backyard jobs using zip ties.

The same thing applies for the rest of your cars electronics. The attention to detail is what seperates a high dollar car from an economy car. If you plan on adding additional strains to your electrical system like and audio system, additional lights or higher powered lights, fuel management systems, radar detectors, ipods, etc..., you need to build a solid foundation for those items to tap into.

I spent 22yrs as an electronics techincian so I know what bad grounds and contact points can do. I took one look at the main ground to chassis contact point on our car and realized it needs improvement.

[dr07gs]

I wonder if this would fix the rough-idle I'm starting to have. It's not that bad but occassionally, I would feel the car shake a little bit while stopped at a traffic light. I was meaning to check the plugs on my GS to see if it will give me any clues. A member from the other 4G forum had the same issues, his 4G had 9k miles in it and when he pulled out the plugs, they're burnt from possibly running too lean. My GS has approx 5k miles so I'm hoping the plugs aren't like his.

I'm new to this concept as well. So basically, using the grounding wires, I'd ground the intake manifold, the throttle body, the alternator, and the gear box below the stock airbox. Am I grounding all of them onto the negative side of the battery or to the chasis? The chasis being a steel frame somewhere in the engine or just any metal surface will do?

[dr07gs]

I've been googling for grounding kits and a typical one consists of some fancy looking 24-k distribution block which gives them an excuse to sell the kit at inflated prices. So I went looking for a standard ground distribution block (4 gauge) mainly used for audio applications and found a bunch for around $10 - $15. I'll get a piece of 25' - 4 guage blue ground wire and some solderless connectors. I've seen an installation where the distribution block is connected to the car's frame within the engine compartment. I might opt for that location too but I have to look inside and see where I can connect my grounding kit.

Leeclipse, do you think that grounding the negative side of the battery to the ground distribution block is overkill?

[Leeclipse]

No, thats what I did. I ran a short cable to the chassis ground right next to the negative terminal. I used that point as my distributaion rather than adding another distribution block. Just make sure that directly under the bolt you sand or file away some paint so you have a metal to metal contact. Mine was still painted. There is another chassis ground point on the opposite side of the engine bay in the same location as the main. I ran a cable to there and used that as the left side distribution point. I also got the Apexi super ground because it regulates voltage noise between the positive and negative side. Thats an option that I chose but even without that the extra grounding straps are good.

[dr07gs]

I'm looking for a grounding spot, by the vehicle frame itself, for the distribution block. I can run a 4 guage from there to the distribution block, which I'll locate somewhere in the engine bay. From the distro, I'll run the 8 guage wires to the different areas.