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Old July 11th, 2011, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey there. So today I dropped my car off to the dealership (08 GT with 8000 miles) and the dealer talked me into using synthetic blend instead of paying premium for mobil one full synthetic. He told me it was too early to be dropping in full synthetic, and as long as i change within 3000 miles i will be fine and to look into doing full synthetic around 50,000 miles. What do you guys think. Should I have paid the extra to get the full synthetic now or will the blend be a good choice for now. IDK what was used for the first oil change (or if there even was one) within the first 5,000 miles I didn't own the car. thanks!
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i dont think 8,000 miles is too early to switch to full synthetic... what i would do however, is go buy the oil you want yourself next time, and bring it in...
dealerships have a 1,000 % profit on oil...
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Yea I don't think it is ever to early to switch. I mean its way better for your car and why not use the top oil?
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Now you guys are making me second guess my decision now should i call them back to see if they have changed it yet and pay the extra $20+ for the mobil 1 full synthetic?
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Ha I mean don't fret bro. Just next time you do an oil change bring your own oil of your choice. I like to rock the royal purple
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ha ha thanks guys, i want the best in the beast and was planning on it, but its not going to hurt it going syn blend this time. and next time i'll def bring in my own oil. thanks for the help guys!
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When I bought my 07 gt it had only 3 miles on it. I took her right home drained out the oil and put castrol sentec full synthetic and a k&n oil filter and a k&n air filter. Nothin but the best for my demon girl. I have tried royal purple at one time but had to much engine noise. U could hear the valves or somethin clatering. I switched back to castrol for the best protection.
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Eh may be cause your a gt? I have no issues with royal purple.
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i only use full synthetic in my car and my fiancee's and her car has 10,000 miles on it.
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muscles ur prob right. diff setup all together. diff valves diff pistions diff crank everything. have u used anything else other then royal purple and listined to the engine any??
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Besides the oil that was in it prior to my owning it no.
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Oil is a huge debate and always will be as long as it is used as lubricant for the internal combustion engine.

It really comes down to your own preference. If you like Royal Purple then go with it. If you like Synthetic blend, go with that.

If you hear any valve chatter or anything you should add a bit of the Lucas Oil stabilizer. It should knock down on your chatter. It is a common thing for that to happen though. Just make sure you're using the factory recommended weight unless you have a CRAZY amount of modification done or your engine is using just a bit of oil you can thicken it up some but at that point you should be looking at a rebuild in the NEAR future.

Moral of the story. Use the oil you wanna use. You can switch from Synthetic to Synthetic blend to straight up dinosaur oil as often as you want as long as you meet the correct oil change times/mileage for the type used. I've stretched Royal Purple to an 8500 mile change and it was still decently clean so just use what you want.
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I use the castrol oil and i do evry 500 and the oil still looks good so u have to use ur judgement on it....
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Ha thought you were supposed to change it every 3000 miles?
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Hey there. So today I dropped my car off to the dealership (08 GT with 8000 miles) and the dealer talked me into using synthetic blend instead of paying premium for mobil one full synthetic. He told me it was too early to be dropping in full synthetic, and as long as i change within 3000 miles i will be fine and to look into doing full synthetic around 50,000 miles. What do you guys think. Should I have paid the extra to get the full synthetic now or will the blend be a good choice for now. IDK what was used for the first oil change (or if there even was one) within the first 5,000 miles I didn't own the car. thanks!
While the dealer did save u some coin (unusual for a dealer to talk u into a downgrade?) the rest of what they told you is nonsense. Dont change until 7,500 mile unless you drive under severe or harsh conditions, and what type of oil u run at what mileage does not matter at all.

if u like the synthetic blend, make your own mix by adding some dino to some full synthetic, this way you know the percentage of the "blend" and didnt buy some off the shelf "semi-synthetic" which could be .05% synthetic and marketed as semi synthetic
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Ya it's no big deal man. I've been running non-synthetic oil on my car for 58k miles and have had no problems. But I do change it every 3k just because I like to push it pretty hard and because it's not synthetic. If I did use synthetic and babied the car I would go 5k between changes
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Suit yourself, and it wouldnt hurt to change it everyday , but 7,500 really is ok
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Are you just saying that because it's what is in the service manual? The service manual for my dads car says every 20k but I would never go that long. 7500 is fine as long as you aren't burning oil and as long as it looks decently clean when you do the oil change
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when i bought my gs,the salesman that allso had a gs told me even though the manual states 7500,to not go over 5k.i run mobile 1 syn and i wont go over 4500 miles before i change it.
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Are you just saying that because it's what is in the service manual? The service manual for my dads car says every 20k but I would never go that long. 7500 is fine as long as you aren't burning oil and as long as it looks decently clean when you do the oil change
based on whats in the service manual combined with my own experiences.

what kind of car does your dad drive?

burning oil has nothing to do with change frequency and the oil should be dirty when you change it.
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when i bought my gs,the salesman that allso had a gs told me even though the manual states 7500,to not go over 5k.i run mobile 1 syn and i wont go over 4500 miles before i change it.
I would advise that you do not take oil change interval recomendations from a car saleman. I feel like people change it earlier than recommended because it makes them feel good, and theres lots of propganda out there stateing you should but I believe it to be a wasteful practice

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Their was no reason not to go synthetic all the way, idk what he was saying but since he saved you some cash maybe he was just looking out for you.
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You need to chill out with the smart ass comments Mach. You wonder why people flame you? It's because of your attitude. Everyone is saying there own personal opinions on oil changes and you come in acting like your opinion is the only one that matters. Just leave the smart ass comments out and you will be fine.
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My intentions are not to come across as a smart ass, nor act like my opinion is the only one that counts.

Im aware that this is a much debateable area and everyone has thier own opinion, and i gave mine. take it or leave it.

I simply included reasons why people may change thier oil earlier than recommended, as well as why i think its a bad idea.

wasnt trying to come across that way, but i suppose it could be read that way. Ill edit it to make it more pleasing sounding
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Thank you. I just interpreted what you said based on your previous posts. I just didn't like the fact that you were saying people who change their oil before 7500 are wasting money and time. Being cautious is not always a bad thing.
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I used to use that line of thinking as well. Mine would be dirty looking right around 3K miles

recommended change intervals seem to be getting even longer than 7.5K, and im getting the impression that even that can be considered conservative, as many go sucessfully even with longer intervals

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Thank you. I just interpreted what you said based on your previous posts. I just didn't like the fact that you were saying people who change their oil before 7500 are wasting money and time. Being cautious is not always a bad thing.
thanks for pointing out maybe i should be more careful how comments come across, but i never said you had to agree with my opinion, i was just throwing it out there.

there was nothing wrong with my previous posts. what was wrong was how the gestapo of club4g reacted.
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I change my oil every 5k dirty or not, I use 10W30 synthetic but I have very good reason to make sure my oil is in 100% shape. It is the only thing that cools my turbine rite now, so even if its not time to change it better safe than sorry. losing 20$ changing early is way better than picking up the mess yo uhave when a valuable piece of equipment fails in the engine bay.
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I change my oil every 5k dirty or not, I use 10W30 synthetic but I have very good reason to make sure my oil is in 100% shape. It is the only thing that cools my turbine rite now, so even if its not time to change it better safe than sorry. losing 20$ changing early is way better than picking up the mess yo uhave when a valuable piece of equipment fails in the engine bay.
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