Why So Lacking In Aftermarket Parts??

[Animefreak1983]

Much to my surprise I cannot seem to find a single thread on why the heck the 4g's have so few after market parts. Few folks I talked to said maybe due to they are to new. But man I've seen car's that just came out get more support than we are.
I"m totally confused as to why it is. Therefor I thought I'd ask if anyone has any input on this..

[gspower]

because the majority of 4G owners cry about not having parts but somehow find themselves conveniently broke when group buys and shit pop up. nuff sed.

[choppertwo]

Originally Posted by Animefreak1983

Much to my surprise I cannot seem to find a single thread on why the heck the 4g's have so few after market parts. Few folks I talked to said maybe due to they are to new. But man I've seen car's that just came out get more support than we are.
I"m totally confused as to why it is. Therefor I thought I'd ask if anyone has any input on this..

Everythings out there, you just gotta look. -CHOP-- Well. nearly everything

[executive]

Not a big enough martket. What parts do you really need that cant be found for the car though? We have atleast 2 options for almost everything.

If you want a million things available then a mustang or corvette or civic might be for you.

[tjh]

There is tons of products for our vehicles just look :-)

[bullet06]

There is a lot but still a lot of parts we could have. This is because its not the dsm that everyone holds the eclipse up to.

But mostly because the only race cars out there is the RRE well in the states as far as I know.

Other cars like the 350z-370z, mustang, M3. Type cars have the back up of being in the race would like the evo. So that gets them seen and show what thay can do. Plus the kids want them for that resin and shops make more parts faster for that resin and others.

We do have a good amount of parts now but still far from everything.

[Freeker]

Cams? Nope
Performer intake manifolds? Nope
Heads? Nope
Programmer? Nope
Internals? Nope
Turbo/supercharger kits? Nope

But there are other things to do.. Just costs more...

[Daxenth]

Originally Posted by Freeker

Cams? Nope
Performer intake manifolds? Nope
Heads? Nope
Programmer? Nope
Internals? Nope
Turbo/supercharger kits? Nope

But there are other things to do.. Just costs more...

not to bash heads with you bro but doesnt (or didnt i guess) DELTA manufacture make cams rods and pistons for us for a while at least? and doesnt RRE offer a stage 1 cam for the GS? if not, travis has a cam for the GS somehow.

and turbo/ super kits are a no go, but you can build one from parts. if you have the know how

i do get what youre saying though and it sucks royal ass... ive looked at the civic market just for shits and giggles once and talk about being a lazy/ cheap modder...

[freakydeaky]

dibs on dax's soul!

[Daxenth]

another thing, think of how expensive it is to make vehicle specific parts. exhausts and other things are cheap. compared to if a company put in the hard time money and effort for, say, a full turbo kit that works flawlessly with our cars. or an eclipse specific stage 2 internal set. you get the idea. companies often put in far more time and money into developing a product than people pay. so say they put 50000 thousand into developing a perfect turbo kit (few junked cars later) they sell it for 1000 out the door... well if only 15 people at most buy them, where do they get the rest of the money from?

[Daxenth]

Originally Posted by freakydeaky

dibs on dax's soul!

all for the low price of one blood ritual and shipping fees!

[freakydeaky]

pm sent

[Animefreak1983]

So after I started this thread, I got doing a little re-search. Plus watched the old show street furry on dvd an found out a few things.
1. The import tuner market isn't what it was a few years ago.
my feelings for what caused that overal is simple, an there's a few causes really,. people expected to have things
cheaply like they seen in the first Fast an the furious film , an then
when they found out they couldn't spend a few hundered bucks an have a 10 second car, they started looking else where.

2. Japan from my understanding isn't focused on racing as much as it was previously. They are trying to go more ECO friendly an all. Which most of the after market parts came from them, even if a u.s company ended up making imitations of them.

3. I think Mitsubishi is trying to push some of their other cars. Especially if they are high priced. Several things bug me about this idea, but one thing above all else.
They've been pushing the evo from what I can tell. But the evo is a 4 door car (Unless there's one I've not seen), an waay over priced , an from the two I've seen they have cheap crap interior on the inside. I knew someone that had a Evo 4 and with in the first year 3 panels cracked, just because it got cold out. Plus with in the first two years they had to have it in for repairs like 10 times. While my understanding is they have corrected some of those problems with them, still I feel they should have backed the eclipse too.

4. Final thing is the plan to cancel the eclipses has likely been indiscussion for a while now. Because the only place they sold well was in the U.S an for a car company they mostly need to look at the market as a whole, an not just one company .


I will say I'm planning to have discussion with a friend whom I belive has the tools, skill an ability to make some of this stuff . If I'm correct about this, than maybe I'll be able to help change this fact. I'm pretty sure he'd do it too. Because he's currently out of work. Has cerebral palsy an so decent jobs are harder for him to get .

[Daxenth]

am i the only dick in this thread?..

[XxkevinchuxX]

theres no consumer support. no one is interested in shelling out cash or we simply cant get gb's in order. im getting to the point where i have most aftermarket parts available for the GS....hell id be interested in just getting some fuse box covers made...but we have to message companies for what we want and hold our end to buy when the time comes.

[Xero]

A few other things that the aftermarket production companies take into account:
1. Percentage of marketshare for a particular model. (4G Eclipse)
2. Percentage of those sold vs. the demand for mods
3. Time on the market

So, our beloved 4Gs sold very poorly compared to other cars on the market as a whole. Of those sold, the majority were not owned by an aftermarket-seeking crowd. As the cars begin to drop in price, more of the tuning crowd may begin to pick them up and then you may see an increase in aftermarket supply.

Even with the Civic aftermarket, you will see a larger amount of mods available for the older models.

[mwaterous]

Here's the thing; we have a lot more support than some of the vehicles out there modders are driving. For what we don't have supported, there's a billion shops out there willing to work with you, and you can be the proud owner of a fairly bespoke and unique fourth gen Eclipse, much MUCH cooler than a 500 of a kind with a busted ass body kit Honda. Not to pick on Honda, but they do it to themselves.

[executive]

Thats what happens when you can get everything you need from ebay for a few pennies. You look like alot of the hondas.


As far as modders picking the car up later. I doubt it. You are starting with a platform thats well the greatest. Alot want dohc, a car that doesnt wiegh as much as a small truck, rwd or awd.

I never looked it up b4 but how is the wieght distribution on the 4g

[mwaterous]

Honestly the Eclipse is heavy, but it's not *that* heavy. There's a lot of cars in our class and similar that weigh as much or more. That's the price you pay for features; air con, power, seat heaters and other junk. If you want stripped down, go buy a GT3 (half a ton lighter).

There's still a lot of potential on our platform, and I think there's just too many rich kids out there who want to buy bolt on and nothing else that happen to have loud voices who make it sound like there's nothing that can be done with our cars. If you have the time, money and passion... well look at Neo.

[nokiauser]

Originally Posted by executive

Thats what happens when you can get everything you need from ebay for a few pennies. You look like alot of the hondas.


As far as modders picking the car up later. I doubt it. You are starting with a platform thats well the greatest. Alot want dohc, a car that doesnt wiegh as much as a small truck, rwd or awd.

I never looked it up b4 but how is the wieght distribution on the 4g

The GT is 61/39 front/rear distribution:
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT - First Drive & Road Test Review - Motor Trend
Specifications - 2011 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT - Yahoo! Autos

The GT Spyder is 58/42:
2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT 2dr Convertible (3.8L 6cyl 5A) - Convertibles - CNET Archive

But if you have the RRE GT, with all the weight trimming (which is mostly in the rear), it's going to be 63/37 weight distribution:
RRE

[Freeker]

Originally Posted by nokiauser

The GT is 61/39 front/rear distribution:
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT - First Drive & Road Test Review - Motor Trend
Specifications - 2011 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT - Yahoo! Autos

The GT Spyder is 58/42:
2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT 2dr Convertible (3.8L 6cyl 5A) - Convertibles - CNET Archive

But if you have the RRE GT, with all the weight trimming (which is mostly in the rear), it's going to be 63/37 weight distribution:
RRE

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