P2R Lower tie bar group buy.

[Chris05]

Mine should be here today but I guess I can't flip shit since I know what to expect haha I hope we get to keep these! So we can have two!

[XxkevinchuxX]

Originally Posted by ;664271

Ok, from what I can see from the picture is that it looks like the bar is touching the chassis before its able to sit completely flush.

This was actually my only concern. It’s not to big of a problem though. I just have to make a small spacer and include longer bolts.

What I will need to do is order the bolt that goes there from Mitsubishi, so that I can get the size and the length, unless someone will be abel to tell me the size , length, and thread pitch.

Regards,
Sean Yearwood
Power Rev Racing.

from p2r

[pat_08GT_Spyder]

good, at least they're willing to make it right, it seems.

[executive]

What about the issue with the toe that was brought up?

[pat_08GT_Spyder]

if the bar has an "oval" hole (not sure of the right word, but i guess a "long" hole ), it should allow the bolt to slide back and forth to adjust the toe, shouldnt it? no need for an adjustable bar in that case..

[executive]

But wont after a while of normal driving the bar would kind slide left and right. Unless it has bolts like I use for xray machine brackets, they have like long teeth on them that go in and grip the metal to keep it from moving

[pat_08GT_Spyder]

well, if it's done right, it shouldnt slide any more than the stock sh**...

or if you wanna be safe, like you say, use those special bolts or washers...

[Mdixon23]

Well the toe bolts have a nut on the back. As long as you tighten then shit out of them I don't see why it would slide.


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[NitroGlisson]

If I see the issues everyone is reporting....it will be going back. I will not accept spacers as a fix and if it messes with my toe-in...well just not acceptable. Hope they hold mine and provide a fix before shipping. If they ship knowing it has issues then I will just cancel the order, protest in paypal. and get my money back. Do not think this was very professional. They can redeem themselves but not at any cost to me. This is their bad design and therefore they must eat the costs of the fix.

[executive]

I know they could have got their hands on a 4g soo they could see if it fit

[XxkevinchuxX]

I'm as disappointed in this as everyone else. They assured me that it would fit being that it was a "simple bar" and if we did run into problems they would fix it. The issue of the test fittment was discouraging as well, however I had faith and still do that this we be resolved. I appologize to you guys for jumping the gun on this project.

Mike perhaps you can email p2r as well and let them know what's going on in detail as well. I will get under the car and attempt the install as well just to know first hand what's going on.

Again I do apologize guys, and feel terrible for this blunder. I'm looking at it in a different light now as well. We're all learning the ins and outs of the car and helping aftermarket r and d. I will keep you guys posted

[BlueFireIce]

Originally Posted by XxkevinchuxX

I'm as disappointed in this as everyone else. They assured me that it would fit being that it was a "simple bar" and if we did run into problems they would fix it. The issue of the test fittment was discouraging as well, however I had faith and still do that this we be resolved. I appologize to you guys for jumping the gun on this project.

Mike perhaps you can email p2r as well and let them know what's going on in detail as well. I will get under the car and attempt the install as well just to know first hand what's going on.

Again I do apologize guys, and feel terrible for this blunder. I'm looking at it in a different light now as well. We're all learning the ins and outs of the car and helping aftermarket r and d. I will keep you guys posted

I can agree with most of what has been said. If they did not have a car for fitment, I would have been willing to still PAY for the bar (if they would send me a fixed one at no cost after), and have them send just the one out to me for fitment tests and give the needed feed back, which would have saved them time and materials on making duds.

[Animefreak1983]

Kevin your being to hard on your self buddy.
From what I've seen you did everything correct on your part. An the company did the best they could with what was available . Everyone knew this was a new product so there's a chance it would need fixed or modded .

I'd still be interested in one if they get the bugs worked out.

[Mdixon23]

Yeah Kevin no worries I really think they should have made one and test fitted it first. I'll try to shoot them an email and let them know my issues. I would also like to know if you have the same issues I was having.


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[NitroGlisson]

Originally Posted by XxkevinchuxX

I'm as disappointed in this as everyone else. They assured me that it would fit being that it was a "simple bar" and if we did run into problems they would fix it. The issue of the test fittment was discouraging as well, however I had faith and still do that this we be resolved. I appologize to you guys for jumping the gun on this project.

Mike perhaps you can email p2r as well and let them know what's going on in detail as well. I will get under the car and attempt the install as well just to know first hand what's going on.

Again I do apologize guys, and feel terrible for this blunder. I'm looking at it in a different light now as well. We're all learning the ins and outs of the car and helping aftermarket r and d. I will keep you guys posted

I want to echo what Jeremy just posted. I don't think you did anything wrong here and appreciate you taking this on and making it happen. The blame/responsibility lies solely on the manufacturer.....they will have to make it right or eat the loss. No matter how this comes out I will never place any blame on you. Thanks again for taking this on and running with it!

[Chris05]

It's ok Kevin we still love you

[Animefreak1983]

uhhh whats this thread turning into. Chris is showing Kevin some love... LOL

[pat_08GT_Spyder]

x4, or x5, well i dont know, but either way, Kevin, you did more than your part on that...
you asked for a fit-test, they played ballsy and said no need, well, too bad for them, they'll have to take a hit and do it right...

[fabguy]

I'm glad you set up the group buy. I understood there may have been an issue like this. Hard to see in the pictures so far but if the holes are oval I'm happy. We will have to remove the cam style washer and replaice with a normal one. And move that cam washer under the bar. With a spacer. I just want the bar in my hands

The cam washer has to stay in the stock location. It will help the pieces from moving. It shouldn't be put in the bar.

[McClipseGT]

^washer is not removable from the bolt

[fabguy]

Originally Posted by McClipseGT

^washer is not removable from the bolt

I looked at the video again. Lookes like we need a new bolt or to cut the washer part off the old one. Is there enough bolt length with the bar on for the nut on the other side?

[Chris05]

Originally Posted by McClipseGT

^washer is not removable from the bolt

I know this is OT but Mitsu puts non removable washers on everything and it pisses me off

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by NitroGlisson

If I see the issues everyone is reporting....it will be going back. I will not accept spacers as a fix and if it messes with my toe-in...well just not acceptable. Hope they hold mine and provide a fix before shipping. If they ship knowing it has issues then I will just cancel the order, protest in paypal. and get my money back. Do not think this was very professional. They can redeem themselves but not at any cost to me. This is their bad design and therefore they must eat the costs of the fix.

I feel the same way. I'm not comfortable using this with spacers. Unless someone can educate me of why this product will not be negatively effected by the use of spacers then I would like to request that they fix and reissue the part. Our numbers were enough to get the part produced, now we need to use our numbers to ensure it is produced correctly.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't want a subpar product.

[Chris05]

Originally Posted by Mattman

I feel the same way. I'm not comfortable using this with spacers. Unless someone can educate me of why this product will not be negatively effected by the use of spacers then I would like to request that they fix and reissue the part. Our numbers were enough to get the part produced, now we need to use our numbers to ensure it is produced correctly.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't want a subpar product.

That's totally understandable and I'm sure everyone agrees!

[Mdixon23]

Yeah I'm not real big on wanting to use spacers. They should fix the issues or give us our money back. At this point I just want to send it back and dispute it on Paypal. I hate to be a dick but we all paid them for something that doesn't work. It's a useless piece of metal right now.

[XxkevinchuxX]

mike have you contacted p2r as well? im still waiting on a reply from them.

[Chris05]

Got my disappointment in a tube today!

[pat_08GT_Spyder]

you can always plasti-dip the shit out of one end of it, like 2-3" thick, and use it as a giant SS dildo?

well, lets just hope P2R make things right, and not just a half-ass fix with a couple of washers and longer bolts... it fits or it doesnt, simple as that...

[Chris05]

Originally Posted by pat_08GT_Spyder

you can always plasti-dip the shit out of one end of it, like 2-3" thick, and use it as a giant SS dildo?

well, lets just hope P2R make things right, and not just a half-ass fix with a couple of washers and longer bolts... it fits or it doesnt, simple as that...

Ah now Pat has me thinking with the whole dildo idea...

[Mdixon23]

Originally Posted by XxkevinchuxX

mike have you contacted p2r as well? im still waiting on a reply from them.

No I haven't got the chance to contact them. It's been one crazy weekend and I haven't really had the time to sit down and type an email out.


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[NitroGlisson]

[XxkevinchuxX]

Originally Posted by p2r

Ok, so I did some research, and we are going to have to make a slight adjustment to the bars. Its not a big deal in terms of the work involved. Its mostly the fact that people will have to wait up to about 2 weeks, before the bars are ready to ship again. I will actually need to get back the bars that we did already ship out . SO if you can post on the forums for the people who already received there bars to email me, so that I can email them return shipping labels.

Regards,
Sean Yearwood

from p2r

[Mattman]

Shit happens, but that's a great way for them to handle it. I had a feeling they would reissue them, but I have to admit I thought they would shaft us on shipping. I'm glad to see they are going to cover that aspect as well, and make this ordeal as pleasant as possible.

What is his email?


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[XxkevinchuxX]

orders@powerrevracing.com

[Animefreak1983]

Maybe you guys should tell them because of the extra time and trouble they should donate one of the fixed ones to your friendly neighborhood Animefreak LOL.

[Mattman]

Sent them my info and thanked them for covering return shipping. Like I said before I feel that they should, but in my experiences a lot of companies try to put shipping cost on the consumer even when it's their mistake. So I'm rather impressed they didn't even try. Props to them for that.


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[Mdixon23]

Thanks Kevin I just sent him an email and told him if he had any questions about my experience he could call me. I wished I was closer to them cause if I were I would drive down there for them to test fit it.

[Ballfade]

Good shit

[roman lujan]

Good shit man mine get here tomorrow and will leave tomorrow

[Mdixon23]

Well I haven't got an email back yet. That damn thing is still in my trunk in the tube it came in.