Turbo kits for the GT

[VlcmSfr321]

Are there any turbo kits for the 06 eclipse GT????????????

[Kilzod]

None as of yet...

[darb454]

UCSPerformance was working on one for a while but hasnt updated us since feb so no idea where its at right now. its only a single turbo application though

[Kilzod]

Nah - UCS isn't working on GT version.

He WAS working on the GS version, but hasn't come to update in a long time, so we don't really know what's going on with that right now, and he had said that once that's done he's going to focus more on the newer cars coming out than the GT... So I doubt Greg will make a GT version... At least any time soon.

[executive]

well my build is coming along nicely. I got all but three things ready. once all the parts are in I will be ready to install, then boosted no more than two days later.

I need to find someone to do the piping from my turbo to throttle body. what I was thinking of doing was to take the piping from a short ram intake since it has the fitting on it already for the sensor and the other rubber line. I also need to find a decent turbo that's small in size for applications where space is at a minimum. and the last thing comes as what to do about tuning, the aem fic would be most peoples choice but I was wonering if I could use the Brat and/or Black box from Ripp. and the most important, what injectors and fuel pump to get if any since im just looking for 4-7psi until upgraded internals are available, at which point ill up the boost and do the remaining necessary upgrades then head back to the drawing boards to plan for a possible bi turbo project. These three questions I've been trying to get answers about for the longest. if I had these figured out then I would have been boosted a long time ago.


because if I can't be 100% sure about those things or atleast have better idea due to advice an help then im going to scrap the project and put 24" wheels on my 4g just because I can, thus eliminating all performance capabilities for this car! yes I am impatient, I need to be boosted! now!

[darb454]

from the sounds on it you going with a single turbo application??? im hoping to go twin turbo. i have see pics of turbo set ups with ripp products but if you want the most out of your boost you better off with a AEM FIC and BrianJ's plug and play harness, they has been multiple postings of people trying to figure out what our injector size is but no clear awnsers from what ive read but are upgradable. as for the fuel pump there is no aftermarket replacements, one was tried for a GS model and didn't fit so we are out of luck there but from what we hear about the supercharger kits are running fine at 8psi with stock fuel pump and 2 extra injectors to bandaid the system for an extra 1300cc of fuel so if u knew our stock injectors wouldnt be hard to figure out how big to go. our motors seem to be strong enought and can handle 8psi but dont think anyone has push the limits although i though i heard someone say 12psi but dont quote me on that so you should be running safe untill they have the stroker kit finished.

keep us posted on ur build

[Ricoswave]

I don't understand why people are all about twin turbos when we haven't even seen a successful driveable single turbo setup built to date. Twin turbo is double the heat, double the piping, and two times the pain in the ass to tune and troubleshoot. A single turbo setup would put us well within reach of 500hp,and going beyond that is completely unnecessary unless you plan on making it a trailered race car. Twin turbos look pretty in magazines, and put down ridiculous numbers, but in the real world they are hardly worth your trouble ( on a 4G GT).

[executive]

yea im going with a single turbo setup. if that actually gets done and later on time and finances allow ill do a twin turbo setup wit one smaller turbo and one larger one, but I would still want our speed limiter removed for atleast track purposes. I would rather be safe than sorry and well I would like to see an aem fic used for a 4g with fi. ripp has already proven their management system works. plus doesn't it already come tuned? and if soo is that just for their sds?

and I would like to see exactly how the situation with these two extra injectors works. won't that be a pain in the ass trying to have a setup like that with the aem? our stock injectors alone won't be enough?

[Ricoswave]

A full bolt on GT is already pushing the limits of the OEM injectors. I read a thread where someone identified that our injectors are nearing 90% duty cycle at WOT ( they are on ninety percent of the time, and have only ten percent of down time ). These numbers may not be dead on but its a good indicator that they are moving a good amount of fuel.

[pdiddy1995]

would that explain why it runs so rich at WOT?

[Ricoswave]

It doesn't explain it, it supports it. The car is nearly commanding more fuel that we can give it.

[360jeepboy]

That is why a tune is need for our car real bad!

[darb454]

well ripp came out with their tuner package (without electronics) for a reason cuz the FIC is more tuneable and a better setup. the 2 injectors can be hooked up pretty simple ( brian would be able to tell you how) but like i said ripp just used the 2 extra as a bandaid as a cheap fix but your better off to do it right and replace all 6. now on that note would it hurt anything if you went with bigger injectors for a while till you get around to boosting?

[executive]

Well I guess I'll have to get two extra injectors. Why hasnt anyone asked Mitsu about our injectors? I'm sure they would atleast give out that information. Hell they had aftermarket injectors and pumps for the 3g. This is why there are no kits for this car!

I'm going to need to look at the install instructions for Rips SDS, just the part about adding injectors. In no car that I have owned and modded have I ever had to add extra injectors.

[Kilzod]

Secondary injectors aren't nearly as safe... IMHO swap out the original 6...

[executive]

not to get too far off topic, but doesn't this mean that its not even safe for these guys who are running n2o since that to requires more fuel from the injectors and I seriously doubt they have those extra ones installed.

anyway, how do I go about adding them? I called the service department at the dealership and they say they don't know our injectors size. theres not a place that can do them custom. I mean I found a place that can do internals for our engine for a premium price and lots of down time

[eclipsercr2006]

what about the injectors from a vr-4 they should work shouldn't they?

[Iceman II]

Originally Posted by Ricoswave

A full bolt on GT is already pushing the limits of the OEM injectors. I read a thread where someone identified that our injectors are nearing 90% duty cycle at WOT ( they are on ninety percent of the time, and have only ten percent of down time ). These numbers may not be dead on but its a good indicator that they are moving a good amount of fuel.

Naturally Aspirated
90% is not true. The max it could be is 80% on an injector.

My AEM logs all 6 Inj at 80% at WOT 6500 rpm for like 20 seconds.

its open 46% at 4000 rpms. 64% at 5000, never higher than 80% at WOT.

Unless u drove a circle track at WOT for hours u would never have an issue thats why we refer to it as Inj Duty Cycle. becasue its a range from 1% at Idol 80% max WOT.

no one commutes at 80% duty and a 1/4 mile is like 14 seconds.

[Ricoswave]

Read my post boss. I specifically said that 90% might not be dead on. Brian J commented a while back about the duty cycle deal. And his word is as good as gold to me. Its besides the point, the bottom line is that the duty cycle is unsatisfactorily high.

And I teach electronics so I am aware of what a duty cycle is. Duty cycle is the time that a device or signal is high compared to when it is low, expressed as a percent. For example, an injector spraying, or not spraying.