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ok here it goes I have the magnaflow and I check the laws and statues on exhaust and theres nothing about modifying exhaust on cars only MC"s so i had a cop call me back from the station that issued the ticket and he argued there is
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316.610 Safety of vehicle; inspection.—It is a violation of this chapter for any person to drive or move, or for the owner or his or her duly authorized representative to cause or knowingly permit to be driven or moved, on any highway any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person or property, or which does not contain those parts or is not at all times equipped with such lamps and other equipment in proper condition and adjustment as required in this chapter, or which is equipped in any manner in violation of this chapter, or for any person to do any act forbidden or fail to perform any act required under this chapter.
(1) Any police officer may at any time, upon reasonable cause to believe that a vehicle is unsafe or not equipped as required by law, or that its equipment is not in proper adjustment or repair, require the driver of the vehicle to stop and submit the vehicle to an inspection and such test with reference thereto as may be appropriate. (2) In the event the vehicle is found to be in unsafe condition or any required part or equipment is not present or is not in proper repair and adjustment, and the continued operation would probably present an unduly hazardous operating condition, the officer may require the vehicle to be immediately repaired or removed from use. However, if continuous operation would not present unduly hazardous operating conditions, that is, in the case of equipment defects such as tailpipes, mufflers, windshield wipers, marginally worn tires, the officer shall give written notice to require proper repair and adjustment of same within 48 hours, excluding Sunday. History.—s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 1, ch. 76-31; s. 1, ch. 78-112; s. 24, ch. 83-216; s. 7, ch. 83-298; s. 328, ch. 95-148; s. 17, ch. 2003-286. |
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![]() .. eh, i think the game is over with your current picture. lets see what happens when he catches on. |
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lol search just 316.610 safety of vehicle and look down the first page. lol.
anyway, like i said in a previous thread. the officer saw it fit to issue a citation, thats one thing, if your guilty of the accusation is completely different. sounds to me you can return it to stock take some pictures, with the newspaper date visible, present it to the judge, and probably have it dismissed. expect to pay court costs regardless. rumor is, citations are being handed out like crazy, more so due to the recession, obviously to make money. even if your innocent youll pay a fee, pretty shitty huh? |
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The police department returned my call and said that it is illegal to remove any factory exhaust parts I said yes thats true if it's a cat-converter or manifold but not a muffler the magnaflow is a regular street muffler not single chamber or cannister EPA tested and approved to be within all states decibel and emissions standards i had no problems with paying for a test to prove so and they laughed so i'm going to run them threw the mud and they will lose
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I got pulled over for a my tint like 3 days ago and I had to convince him my exhaust was stock cause I'm the "ralli///art" edition. Stupid asshole ate it up.
Sidebar: Jimbo I didn't think tint was a primary offence?(One you can be pulled over for) can you shed some light? |
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I GOT IT NOW HA HA HA NOW HERE THIS TO ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE LAND ARE TAKING ONLY PART OF A STATUE AND APPLYING IT TO A TICKET READ THIS NEW FOR FLORIDA 2009 BUT OLD ELSEWHERE (s)316.293
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(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.--
(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured. (b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified. (6) EXEMPT VEHICLES.--The following are exempt from the operation of this act: (a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s. 316.072(5)(a). (b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event. (c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer's engineering, design, or equipment test. (d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways. (7) VIOLATIONS.--A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318. History.--s. 4, ch. 74-110; s. 32, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 78-280; s. 28, ch. 79-65; s. 136, ch. 94-356; s. 16, ch. 97-300; s. 205, ch. 99-248. |
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What this means in section (B) they are using just that to give you a ticket but under wrong def. it's meant to tell where you can't have a modifed exhaust on a state rd highway SR436 but normal city streets are permitted as a reflection on noise in section (a) so to answer the QUESTION TO HAVE ONE IS LEGAL BUT YOU MUST CHECK YOUR STATES DECIBEL LIMIT FLORIDA IS 95(db) who's laughing now
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No it is perfectly legal i promise you that it is a chambered muffler not a cannister that says FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY ARE MAGNAFLOWS BARELY CRACK 90 DECIBEL WHICH IS LEGAL EVERYWHERE GET A CHART FROM MAGNAFLOW
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iF IT WAS ILLEGAL TO CHANGE YOUR MUFFLER LIKE THERE SAYS JUST BY READING SECTION (B) OF THAT LAW THEY COULD SIT OUTSIDE OF EVERY MIDAS , TUFFY, MIENEKE, MUFFLER SHOP AND EMPTY THERE TICKET BOOK IN ONE DAY AND GO HOME
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your probably just having some bad luck... go to court tell them you put the stock muffler on... show them proof... then get your ticket reduced. btw... to much caps
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why would i do that when they have no proof it's not stock my muffler is not chrome and the tip is like the factory one they come factory looks just like the magnaflow
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that's very true ! and is fine by me as along as it's written in the books and acted out the same but making up your own version of laws to save your job and take money away from hard working people is just evil
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this is all bass ackwards.....you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.....not proving your innocence......how did the officer prove that you were modded? did he own a stock eclipse? is he an authority on the subject? did you ask him for proof that you were modded when you were pulled over?
I had an officer laying on the ground on the side of the freeway trying to look at my muffler to prove it to me.....unfortunately for him I'm rolling on sportlines and you can't just get under my back bumper......I drove away before he finished telling me I could leave.... an officer is sworn to "protect and serve".....ask him who he's protecting and serving by guessing that you might not be stock...... |
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FRA ON THE GROUND NOW!
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(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
exhaust meaning all of it . i understand this is hard for some people to read. did he give you a improper muffler\exhaust ticket ?? |
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like i said before if it was illegal they could sit outside every muffler shop every public drag strip every dealer who sells TRD exhaust toyota Borla mustang bowman BMW Nismo nissan etc they would never let that pass it would cost these companys billions think people
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that it not hard to read it's dealing with noise not meaning have one at all thats why it says in such a manner that is above manufact specs which a magnaflow is not if you had put a single chamber flowmaster or glass pack or cannister of any type then it would be i'm a para-legal i'm reading just fine listen to me people
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FRA ON THE GROUND NOW!
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LOFTUS,JIM
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its legal for them because they can tune the piping on said exhaust to make it friendly as possible aftermarket is anther story .. its up to the officer to write that ticket . if he feels its to loud then its a ticket for you !!! |
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