2G 99 eclipse Help

Spiderman12 · April 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM

So my sister has been driving it a lot. Anyway she ran the oil bone dry and the radiator is busted so it ran hot. She said it was smoking then shut off and now it will not crank. We put oil in, Change the spark plugs, we even unplugged the battery for a good two hrs thinking It might be the ECU. I know its not locked because it will turn but just wont fire

Is there any suggestions how to resest the ECU cause im thinking it will not let the car get gas right now. Thanks guys

liquidsilver · April 21st, 2009, 12:00 PM

I think you need a new engine. That is what it sounds like but I'm not a Mitsu mechanic.

Spiderman12 · April 21st, 2009, 02:21 PM

Haha yeah i could do that, But i have no freaking clue how to get a new engine. Maybe i can get one and throw a turbo on it

DarkSidEclipse · April 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM

Well the first thing I would do is put fluids back in it. Check the battery connections there none for coming loose and not making a full connection. Then I would check your drive belts and timing chain. How many miles? Have the belts been replaced?

Spiderman12 · April 21st, 2009, 05:00 PM

tranny fluids good, oil good, anti freeze. It has 140k miles. Belts have not been changed since i got it with 80k miles. They still turn and seem pretty tight. The cables are connecting to battery tightly. Its a new battery. WHat is your take on the ECU.Could that be an issue?

DarkSidEclipse · April 21st, 2009, 05:04 PM

ECU could be best bet would be to get one from a junkyard. However timing chain on those go at around 100k or after that would be were my money is

Spiderman12 · April 21st, 2009, 05:07 PM

Im not the brightest with cars as you can tell but does the timing chain help crank it and get the engine started? The only reason i was thinking ECU cause when she(sister) ran it with no oil it may have shut off and will not let the engine get gas until it is over written, maybe at a dealer or something.

DarkSidEclipse · April 21st, 2009, 08:02 PM

Never seen anything like that with a DSM ECU older cars will shut off if the oil level is to low but not because of the ecu. It will shut down due to mechanical reason's like oil pressure, oil pump stuff like that. If the timing chain or drive belt is broke yes it will act like it wants to start but won't start. You would here like a clicking noise when you turn it. Then again if she was driving with no oil it could be the oil pump. Lesson number 1 if someone isn't going to take of your car then don't let them drive your car.

Spiderman12 · April 22nd, 2009, 01:29 PM

It kinda does make the clicking sound come to think of it. Im not sure if its better to fix this or just let her get a new car. I will miss the old 2g

DarkSidEclipse · April 22nd, 2009, 01:49 PM

Timing belt isnt hard just tedious and a PITA you gotta pull lotta stuff out to do it. If you do get rid of it put on here itll go quick

Spiderman12 · April 23rd, 2009, 12:36 PM

Haha well thanks for all the help hunter. Im going crazy wondering if i just want to drop about 6g and get a turbo and all kinds of goodies cause im sure that car would fly with a turbo but i dont have enough of knowledge on that stuff. Ill keep you updated and maybe see who wants it if I get rid of it.

DarkSidEclipse · April 23rd, 2009, 01:42 PM

Does it have a 63 or a 20a in it?

Spiderman12 · April 23rd, 2009, 01:51 PM

Dude thats a little over my head but i do know it is 1999: GST; 4Cyl 2.0L lol

DarkSidEclipse · April 23rd, 2009, 01:58 PM

If its a GST it should already be turbo'd. If its a GS find out if it has a 4g63 or a 420a engine in it. If its a 63 turboing will be very easy cheap if its a 20a then it will be quite expensive as you would need to buy a whole kit

lil`Wolf · April 23rd, 2009, 02:02 PM

Then it already has a turbo... its a fwd turbo. Mod that bish!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaHunter78

If its a GST it should already be turbo'd. If its a GS find out if it has a 4g63 or a 420a engine in it. If its a 63 turboing will be very easy cheap if its a 20a then it will be quite expensive as you would need to buy a whole kit

if its a 2g its 420a(if its n/t only 1g gs/rs came with 4g63n/t) but dont turbo a n/t 2g its such a PITA trust me ive seen tons of people trying and failing.

Spiderman12 · April 23rd, 2009, 05:02 PM

My bad guys, its def not a Turbo But I will find out tonight when i get to the house whether its a 4g63 or a 420a engine. But if the engine is blown i might as well but one with a turbo correct?

DarkSidEclipse · April 23rd, 2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil`Wolf

Then it already has a turbo... its a fwd turbo. Mod that bish!

if its a 2g its 420a(if its n/t only 1g gs/rs came with 4g63n/t) but dont turbo a n/t 2g its such a PITA trust me ive seen tons of people trying and failing.

Thanks for pointing that out wolf, anyways wolf is right if its FWD and N/T than its 420a they sell kits but it would expensive pointless. You could buy a DSM with 4g63t for cheaper. If its a spyder than it has a 4g64 and you should surf around club3g. Other than that if it is 420a dude well its a neon with an eclipse shel on it might as well just kick it.

Spiderman12 · April 24th, 2009, 11:17 AM

Haha well at least I still have my good ol 4g. Ill miss it but you your right and after checking into the engine is gone, I'm not shelling out 2grand+ to get it fixed unless my sister wants to

But i really do thank you guys for all the info, its been tons of help. Glad to be part of the club!

Spiderman12 · April 28th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Hey guys, turns out it was the coil thing that connects to the spark plugs. Not sure why it was bad but we replaced for for about 80 bucks and now it works fine. Just gotta get the radiator fixed now. Thanks again for the help

Mr DSM · April 28th, 2009, 02:50 PM

too slow to respond...damn

you say its a gst...that means its turbo...easiest way to tell is look for the turbo...it'll be right infront of the valve cover under the exhaust manifold

here are your motor options:

420a

4g63:

however i do believe that in 99 they had a 4g63 motor that was N/T...so like i said...look for the turbo between the radiator and block below the exhaust manifold

Spiderman12 · April 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM

Thanks DSM its def not that Sexy Orange one lol. Its non turbo. But on that 420a pic, See the thing right above the DOHC, Thats what was bad.

DarkSidEclipse · April 28th, 2009, 06:19 PM

Yeah all 2g N/T were 420a's or 4g64's

GS-T_Driver · May 6th, 2009, 02:34 AM

Sounds like your 420A is toast. I would bet the bottom-end is shot from running it dry. The head isn't fond of that either. And if it over-heated enough, your head gasket may be toast as well. By the way, if you're thinking the timing belt went, 420A's/4g63's are interference-engines. If the belt snaps or jumps a tooth, the valves slap the pistons. I don't need to tell about what that means for that engine.

Wingo171 · May 13th, 2009, 03:58 PM

4g63 engines have the tranny on passenger side, 420a have on drivers side. From extreme heat and all, it's prolly a head gasket that she roasted, and the piston rings are probably shot as can be too. If she knows whether it smoked like crazy and if it was blue smoke, that would be the definitive answer.

But if fixing that coil distributor cap was enough than good!

April 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	2G 99 eclipse Help So my sister has been driving it a lot. Anyway she ran the oil bone dry and the radiator is busted so it ran hot. She said it was smoking then shut off and now it will not crank. We put oil in, Change the spark plugs, we even unplugged the battery for a good two hrs thinking It might be the ECU. I know its not locked because it will turn but just wont fire Is there any suggestions how to resest the ECU cause im thinking it will not let the car get gas right now. Thanks guys

April 21st, 2009, 12:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
liquidsilver Liquid Silver Hair Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Vehicle: 07/GS/Spyder Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 87	I think you need a new engine. That is what it sounds like but I'm not a Mitsu mechanic. __________________ MODS: 12Volt Adapter, Sun Visor Sunglass Holder. Trunk Light LOL FUTURE MODS:Maybe, Maybe HIDs

April 21st, 2009, 04:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	Well the first thing I would do is put fluids back in it. Check the battery connections there none for coming loose and not making a full connection. Then I would check your drive belts and timing chain. How many miles? Have the belts been replaced? __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

April 21st, 2009, 05:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	ECU could be best bet would be to get one from a junkyard. However timing chain on those go at around 100k or after that would be were my money is __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

April 21st, 2009, 08:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	Never seen anything like that with a DSM ECU older cars will shut off if the oil level is to low but not because of the ecu. It will shut down due to mechanical reason's like oil pressure, oil pump stuff like that. If the timing chain or drive belt is broke yes it will act like it wants to start but won't start. You would here like a clicking noise when you turn it. Then again if she was driving with no oil it could be the oil pump. Lesson number 1 if someone isn't going to take of your car then don't let them drive your car. __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

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2G 99 eclipse Help

April 21st, 2009, 02:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Haha yeah i could do that, But i have no freaking clue how to get a new engine. Maybe i can get one and throw a turbo on it

April 21st, 2009, 05:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	tranny fluids good, oil good, anti freeze. It has 140k miles. Belts have not been changed since i got it with 80k miles. They still turn and seem pretty tight. The cables are connecting to battery tightly. Its a new battery. WHat is your take on the ECU.Could that be an issue?

April 21st, 2009, 05:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Im not the brightest with cars as you can tell but does the timing chain help crank it and get the engine started? The only reason i was thinking ECU cause when she(sister) ran it with no oil it may have shut off and will not let the engine get gas until it is over written, maybe at a dealer or something.

April 22nd, 2009, 01:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	It kinda does make the clicking sound come to think of it. Im not sure if its better to fix this or just let her get a new car. I will miss the old 2g

April 22nd, 2009, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	Timing belt isnt hard just tedious and a PITA you gotta pull lotta stuff out to do it. If you do get rid of it put on here itll go quick __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

April 23rd, 2009, 12:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Haha well thanks for all the help hunter. Im going crazy wondering if i just want to drop about 6g and get a turbo and all kinds of goodies cause im sure that car would fly with a turbo but i dont have enough of knowledge on that stuff. Ill keep you updated and maybe see who wants it if I get rid of it.

April 23rd, 2009, 01:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	Does it have a 63 or a 20a in it? __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

April 23rd, 2009, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Dude thats a little over my head but i do know it is 1999: GST; 4Cyl 2.0L lol

April 23rd, 2009, 01:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	If its a GST it should already be turbo'd. If its a GS find out if it has a 4g63 or a 420a engine in it. If its a 63 turboing will be very easy cheap if its a 20a then it will be quite expensive as you would need to buy a whole kit __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

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April 23rd, 2009, 05:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	My bad guys, its def not a Turbo But I will find out tonight when i get to the house whether its a 4g63 or a 420a engine. But if the engine is blown i might as well but one with a turbo correct?

April 24th, 2009, 11:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Haha well at least I still have my good ol 4g. Ill miss it but you your right and after checking into the engine is gone, I'm not shelling out 2grand+ to get it fixed unless my sister wants to But i really do thank you guys for all the info, its been tons of help. Glad to be part of the club!

April 28th, 2009, 09:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Hey guys, turns out it was the coil thing that connects to the spark plugs. Not sure why it was bad but we replaced for for about 80 bucks and now it works fine. Just gotta get the radiator fixed now. Thanks again for the help

April 28th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,861 Rep Power: 60	too slow to respond...damn you say its a gst...that means its turbo...easiest way to tell is look for the turbo...it'll be right infront of the valve cover under the exhaust manifold here are your motor options: 420a 4g63: however i do believe that in 99 they had a 4g63 motor that was N/T...so like i said...look for the turbo between the radiator and block below the exhaust manifold __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

April 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
Spiderman12 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 85 Rep Power: 1	Thanks DSM its def not that Sexy Orange one lol. Its non turbo. But on that 420a pic, See the thing right above the DOHC, Thats what was bad.

April 28th, 2009, 06:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 5,603 Rep Power: 61	Yeah all 2g N/T were 420a's or 4g64's __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay." Ralli///Art-RRE-MagnaFlow-Fujita-Tanabe-Works-E4E-HE1-AEM-JrodsMods-Nexen-Enkei

May 6th, 2009, 02:34 AM	#23 (permalink)
GS-T_Driver Timeless Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicagoland Vehicle: '06 GS/'97 GS-T Posts: 77 Rep Power: 1	Sounds like your 420A is toast. I would bet the bottom-end is shot from running it dry. The head isn't fond of that either. And if it over-heated enough, your head gasket may be toast as well. By the way, if you're thinking the timing belt went, 420A's/4g63's are interference-engines. If the belt snaps or jumps a tooth, the valves slap the pistons. I don't need to tell about what that means for that engine. __________________ Reggie N. '97 Eclipse GS-T '06 Eclipse GS

May 13th, 2009, 03:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
Wingo171 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Vehicle: 2002/Eclipse/GT Posts: 3 Rep Power: 2	4g63 engines have the tranny on passenger side, 420a have on drivers side. From extreme heat and all, it's prolly a head gasket that she roasted, and the piston rings are probably shot as can be too. If she knows whether it smoked like crazy and if it was blue smoke, that would be the definitive answer. But if fixing that coil distributor cap was enough than good!

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