TCL/Traction Issues - Page 2

ReggaeRampage · December 10th, 2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianJ

If you guys look through the service manual, there's about a thousand things that will turn that light on...it comes on with many different CEL codes, it can come on by itself even without a CEL. It's done it to me many times in the carwash...

Talking to a mitsu rep will get you nowhere with this one...because everyone's light could be on for different reasons. If you don't get a code when reading with a scantool, you'll have to take it to the dealer to hook up with an MUT-III factory scan tool.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, but it really can be a huge number of things...

Are any of these things related to traction control?
Or is Mitsubishi just retarded, having the light come on for any stupid reason?

Mr DSM · December 10th, 2009, 09:54 AM

i looked through the book and the only thing i saw was something along the lines of please see your dealer but its safe to drive

where at in the book did you see it?

BrianJ · December 10th, 2009, 11:10 AM

I think most if not all the things that will set the TCL light have "something" to do with the TCL system. In other words, if you have a speed sensor go out, that could affect traction control...if an injector isn't working properly, that could affect it...any parameter the traction control routine would look at or use will turn that light on I believe.

MR. DSM...it's not just in one spot in the book...if you look at individual codes it will tell you what lights/codes will be set if the conditions are out of spec...there are several that say they'll set the TCL light.

Brian

ReggaeRampage · December 10th, 2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr DSM

i looked through the book and the only thing i saw was something along the lines of please see your dealer but its safe to drive

where at in the book did you see it?

I dont think he's talking about the original manual that came with the car.
But rather the in-depth one that Russ has in his signature.

Mr DSM · December 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM

would make more sense huh? exam week...im not all here haha

ReggaeRampage · December 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr DSM

would make more sense huh? exam week...im not all here haha

lol...I know the feeling....or lack of.

GoNoShowGT · December 10th, 2009, 02:44 PM

Hey people, add me to the list.lol. I just started getting these also. I have a k&n, headers, full exhaust, etc. I recently put O2 sensor spacers. Oh and the light comes on during highway driving.

GoNoShowGT · December 10th, 2009, 02:46 PM

I hate finals : (

Vader6 · December 10th, 2009, 06:17 PM

My exam for Organic 2 ends at 4 so I'll be at AutoZone at 5......updates then!!!

Vader6 · December 12th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Code - P0171

Supposed to be something with a vaccum hose or the gas cap (not all the way closed)
I taped the blue cylinder hose for the stock box vaccum. That seemed to stop everything but we will see.

Mr DSM · December 13th, 2009, 07:43 PM

mine has yet to do it again and its been colder...maybe the ecu has adapted to it and alls good for now? we'll see

Mr DSM · December 15th, 2009, 11:59 PM

sooo it did it again tonight on the way to cookout at 10:15 so i had nowhere to take it to scan...stupid yellow lights...stupid eclipse ecu

Mr DSM · December 20th, 2009, 06:06 PM

bump yet again

came on tonight as i was passing advanced...but this time it came with the service engine soon light so i turned around and had it scanned

P0714

which the guy told me was something to do with a lean bank but according to the thread on obdII codes here on c4g its "Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Intermittent"

ideas? probably going to call mitsu and set up an appointment later this week if unhooking my ecu for a few doesnt fix it

BrianJ · December 20th, 2009, 06:08 PM

^^^ First time I'm seeing that one...best get it checked out...

DarkSidEclipse · December 20th, 2009, 08:30 PM

Yeah thats deff a first lol

Mr DSM · December 21st, 2009, 11:23 AM

service engine soon light cut off...now im light-less....damn ecu make up your freakin mind

Vader6 · December 21st, 2009, 05:29 PM

If I drive in under 40 degrees the TCL lights come on and then will shut off with a restart. I think it's a Mitsu gimic to get all of us in the dealership.

dogiebitt · January 7th, 2010, 01:37 PM

Happened to me today too. Mine is an 07 stock GT. The only thing I've done recently is change the oil. I checked to make sure filter is on tight, and oil level is ok. Nothing is leaking. Was driving it normally when the Traction Control and 'squiggly tires' lights came on. Temperature outside was 54F, its in FL, so my car doesn't experience low temps often. Been in the 40s all week. I'll take it by advanced to see if they can pull a code. Called stealership that I bought it from, they told me they've never seen that on the eclipse before and wanted to set up an appointment to bring it in. It's still under warranty, so I might just do that (23.5k miles since June of 2007).

Mr DSM · January 8th, 2010, 07:34 PM

well this is good news actually

this means that its not due to mods so the dealer can fix it under warranty

sassr21 · January 12th, 2010, 08:26 AM

Well guys...add me to the list now....I was at a stop light and probably shouldnt have but did and gassed on it not really hard but harder than normal...when I hit 4,000 rpms around that time when MIVEC should do its thing car stated acting like MIVEC wasn't kicking in or something started acting like all the cylinders excpet for one was misfiring...looked at the gauges and there was our two little awesome lights TCL and mr. squiggly car. I've unplugged the battery, taken the ECU fuse out, reseated the MAF sensor plug, listened for any crazy vaccuum leaks...nothing. I turn the car back on after doing all of this...service engine is on...so thats a plus...but at first the two lights don't come on but the service light does immediately but after 20 secs of the car running the two infamous lights come on...so i'm not sure if its throwing a code.

When I was driving I tried again getting up to 4,000 rpms didn't happen...I think mitsu put in a safety feature that if those lights are one then it will not allow you to exceed 4,000 and overrides MIVEC "for your safety"...well what about the safety of my mental well being from being so frustrated with this $h!t...GAH..... any other brainstorming?

I'm going to Checkers tomorrow ASAP to check for a code...hopefully I'll have one...

I have installed a Fujita CIA and i've had a code since that...could never get rid of it. I think it was the P0171 code...so if anything's different than that I'll assume its from this TCL and mr. squiggly getting involved.

December 10th, 2009, 09:54 AM	#42 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	i looked through the book and the only thing i saw was something along the lines of please see your dealer but its safe to drive where at in the book did you see it? __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

December 10th, 2009, 11:10 AM	#43 (permalink)
BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,643 Rep Power: 5	I think most if not all the things that will set the TCL light have "something" to do with the TCL system. In other words, if you have a speed sensor go out, that could affect traction control...if an injector isn't working properly, that could affect it...any parameter the traction control routine would look at or use will turn that light on I believe. MR. DSM...it's not just in one spot in the book...if you look at individual codes it will tell you what lights/codes will be set if the conditions are out of spec...there are several that say they'll set the TCL light. Brian __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

December 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM	#45 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	would make more sense huh? exam week...im not all here haha __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

December 10th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#49 (permalink)
Vader6 The Dark Side Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte/Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,046 Rep Power: 14	My exam for Organic 2 ends at 4 so I'll be at AutoZone at 5......updates then!!! __________________ 2006 Kalapana Black Eclipse GT, Sportronic, Blackout Badge, Grill Delete, Ralliart Eyelids, No DRL, Injen CAI, 3" Header Back Exhaust with HKS tip, Momo Shift Knob and Pedals, H13/H11 8K HID, LED Interior Lights, 35% Tint, Dual Rockford Fosgate P1 In A Custom Sub Box/ T400-2 Amp...Soon Manual Cut Out and Painted Rims (Black)

December 12th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#50 (permalink)
Vader6 The Dark Side Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte/Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,046 Rep Power: 14	Code - P0171 Supposed to be something with a vaccum hose or the gas cap (not all the way closed) I taped the blue cylinder hose for the stock box vaccum. That seemed to stop everything but we will see. __________________ 2006 Kalapana Black Eclipse GT, Sportronic, Blackout Badge, Grill Delete, Ralliart Eyelids, No DRL, Injen CAI, 3" Header Back Exhaust with HKS tip, Momo Shift Knob and Pedals, H13/H11 8K HID, LED Interior Lights, 35% Tint, Dual Rockford Fosgate P1 In A Custom Sub Box/ T400-2 Amp...Soon Manual Cut Out and Painted Rims (Black)

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December 10th, 2009, 02:44 PM	#47 (permalink)
GoNoShowGT Senior Member Name: Eddie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brownsville TX Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT Posts: 111 Rep Power: 1	Hey people, add me to the list.lol. I just started getting these also. I have a k&n, headers, full exhaust, etc. I recently put O2 sensor spacers. Oh and the light comes on during highway driving.

December 10th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#48 (permalink)
GoNoShowGT Senior Member Name: Eddie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brownsville TX Vehicle: 2006/Eclipse/GT Posts: 111 Rep Power: 1	I hate finals : (

December 13th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#51 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	mine has yet to do it again and its been colder...maybe the ecu has adapted to it and alls good for now? we'll see __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

December 15th, 2009, 11:59 PM	#52 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	sooo it did it again tonight on the way to cookout at 10:15 so i had nowhere to take it to scan...stupid yellow lights...stupid eclipse ecu __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

December 20th, 2009, 06:06 PM	#53 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	bump yet again came on tonight as i was passing advanced...but this time it came with the service engine soon light so i turned around and had it scanned P0714 which the guy told me was something to do with a lean bank but according to the thread on obdII codes here on c4g its "Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Intermittent" ideas? probably going to call mitsu and set up an appointment later this week if unhooking my ecu for a few doesnt fix it __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here! Last edited by Mr DSM; December 20th, 2009 at 06:09 PM.

December 20th, 2009, 06:08 PM	#54 (permalink)
BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,643 Rep Power: 5	^^^ First time I'm seeing that one...best get it checked out... __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

December 20th, 2009, 08:30 PM	#55 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 62	Yeah thats deff a first lol __________________ "Owning a 9 second neon is like comming out of the closet. At first you suprise everyone, but in the end your still gay."

December 21st, 2009, 11:23 AM	#56 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	service engine soon light cut off...now im light-less....damn ecu make up your freakin mind __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

December 21st, 2009, 05:29 PM	#57 (permalink)
Vader6 The Dark Side Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte/Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,046 Rep Power: 14	If I drive in under 40 degrees the TCL lights come on and then will shut off with a restart. I think it's a Mitsu gimic to get all of us in the dealership. __________________ 2006 Kalapana Black Eclipse GT, Sportronic, Blackout Badge, Grill Delete, Ralliart Eyelids, No DRL, Injen CAI, 3" Header Back Exhaust with HKS tip, Momo Shift Knob and Pedals, H13/H11 8K HID, LED Interior Lights, 35% Tint, Dual Rockford Fosgate P1 In A Custom Sub Box/ T400-2 Amp...Soon Manual Cut Out and Painted Rims (Black)

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January 7th, 2010, 01:37 PM	#58 (permalink)
dogiebitt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Vehicle: 2007 Eclipse GT Posts: 3 Rep Power: 2	Happened to me today too. Mine is an 07 stock GT. The only thing I've done recently is change the oil. I checked to make sure filter is on tight, and oil level is ok. Nothing is leaking. Was driving it normally when the Traction Control and 'squiggly tires' lights came on. Temperature outside was 54F, its in FL, so my car doesn't experience low temps often. Been in the 40s all week. I'll take it by advanced to see if they can pull a code. Called stealership that I bought it from, they told me they've never seen that on the eclipse before and wanted to set up an appointment to bring it in. It's still under warranty, so I might just do that (23.5k miles since June of 2007).

January 8th, 2010, 07:34 PM	#59 (permalink)
Mr DSM vTak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hickory/Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 2008 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 60	well this is good news actually this means that its not due to mods so the dealer can fix it under warranty __________________ <Click Me Fujita CAI \| 3" Aeon Exhaust to HKS Axle Back \| 6K HIDs \| Tint \| Vision Lids \| Progress Rear Sway Bar \| Tanabe Strut Bar National Mitsu Meet Here!

January 12th, 2010, 08:26 AM	#60 (permalink)
sassr21 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: um...Hawaii? Vehicle: 2006 Mitsu Eclipse Gt Posts: 77 Rep Power: 3	Well guys...add me to the list now....I was at a stop light and probably shouldnt have but did and gassed on it not really hard but harder than normal...when I hit 4,000 rpms around that time when MIVEC should do its thing car stated acting like MIVEC wasn't kicking in or something started acting like all the cylinders excpet for one was misfiring...looked at the gauges and there was our two little awesome lights TCL and mr. squiggly car. I've unplugged the battery, taken the ECU fuse out, reseated the MAF sensor plug, listened for any crazy vaccuum leaks...nothing. I turn the car back on after doing all of this...service engine is on...so thats a plus...but at first the two lights don't come on but the service light does immediately but after 20 secs of the car running the two infamous lights come on...so i'm not sure if its throwing a code. When I was driving I tried again getting up to 4,000 rpms didn't happen...I think mitsu put in a safety feature that if those lights are one then it will not allow you to exceed 4,000 and overrides MIVEC "for your safety"...well what about the safety of my mental well being from being so frustrated with this $h!t...GAH..... any other brainstorming? I'm going to Checkers tomorrow ASAP to check for a code...hopefully I'll have one... I have installed a Fujita CIA and i've had a code since that...could never get rid of it. I think it was the P0171 code...so if anything's different than that I'll assume its from this TCL and mr. squiggly getting involved. __________________ *Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.* http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/102_0472.jpg

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