new hood

Mattman · November 25th, 2009, 11:46 AM

i know a lot of people bitch about the fitment on the rspec hood, i even sold my previous because it wasnt 100% perfect. needless to say, when i went back to oem, my car.....well, it just felt incomplete. so i bought another hood, i went with the rspec again and had it professionally installed this time. I must say its awesome, fitment is perfect, a thousand times better than my last one.

i have a few questions though, and although these things may have been addressed i couldnt find the "specific" answers i needed. the body shop, who i trust, said they would rather not install the windshield squirters. i was very adamant about retaining these, since my last aftermarket hood deleted them and it was a huge pain in the ass considering i do a lot of traveling. they said they think if they drill a spot for them, it may crack the fiberglass rendering the whole hood useless. they've told me many times that they dont deal with fiberglass much, so they are very careful. how true is this? i understand there always can be a risk, but how dangerous is this? i havent found one car with the hood and squirters, so what do you guys do? just live without them?

also they didnt want to install my redline hood struts. Basically for the same reason, fiberglass possibly cracking. i know tons of people have asked can you use the hood struts with an aftermarket hood, but it seems the question is always directed to the struts being to strong and possibly bending the hood up in the middle. id like to know the answer to this bending issue as well, but im really concerned about the cracking, i have never heard this before, and though i trust these guys id like to check with the community and hear your comments. (i forgot to mention the rspec does not have a spot for the hood prop, so it seems struts are the only option, how do you guys prop it open?)

the two guys working on my car, said that if some of ya'll have done it (specifically with the rspec) they would feel more comfortable doing it. they said the rspec is extremely light for a fiberglasss hood, and more thin than most they have dealt with so thats why theyre concerned.

one last question, the oem hood has a rubber "seal" (i guess is what its called) up towards the front. it seems like this acts as a cushion for the hood so it doesnt hit bare metal by the radiator. the shop did not move this piece to the new hood, and im worried about it scratching or getting damaged. is this a valid concern? should i move that rubber piece over?

i appreciate the help, and so far from my experience body work is best left to professionals. these guys redid my kit and hood, and everything looks A LOT better. lesson learned.

Mattman · November 25th, 2009, 11:57 AM

heres some quick pix i just snapped, again ignore the eyelids. i bought some new ones and need to install them, the ones on right now were to match the oem fitment

PopsGT · November 25th, 2009, 12:30 PM

Not having windshield squirters can be a bitch, especially when road spray is not being countered be falling precipitation. I know this is a gamble, a real big gamble, but here's a how to on drilling fiberglass. Also, I could be mistaken but I think that rubber strip is just as you called it, a seal. I think it's there to minimize air getting up underneath the hood and causing lift, as well as to prevent water from getting into the engine bay.

BTW, the hood looks kick ass.

EDIT: IMHO, I would want to get the after market hood as close to the stock one as possible (i.e. windshield squirters, hood prop and seal). The hood struts would be a bonus.

spyder8213 · November 25th, 2009, 12:32 PM

IMHO, it's only fiberglass. If it cracks while being drilled, then fix it. It's something they should have done prior to painting it. I would be mroe concerned with drilling CF than fiberglass, but people do it all the time installing hood pins. I understand they said they don't work much with fiberglass, which should have been a warning flag. I would have found a body shop that does more work along the lines of what you needed. I'm sure in your area there are shops around that specialize in body kit work.

DarkSidEclipse · November 25th, 2009, 12:34 PM

The rubber seal is a weather strip however all it really successeds in doing is blocking airflow, and keeping heat in the engine bay pulling that off was technically my first mod lol. If you do install the struts don't let the hood lift on its own

MarkGuutz · November 25th, 2009, 02:55 PM

damn that sucks. i was looking at the rspec hood myself and thought it came with the holes like the oem carbon hood. I dont think the weather stripping should be a issue. hows the weight on the hood? is it lighter than the oem one?

Freeker · November 25th, 2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkGuutz

damn that sucks. i was looking at the rspec hood myself and thought it came with the holes like the oem carbon hood. I dont think the weather stripping should be a issue. hows the weight on the hood? is it lighter than the oem one?

not is it just lighter but how much lighter?

Ballfade · November 25th, 2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PopsGT

Not having windshield squirters can be a bitch, especially when road spray is not being countered be falling precipitation. I know this is a gamble, a real big gamble, but here's a how to on drilling fiberglass. Also, I could be mistaken but I think that rubber strip is just as you called it, a seal. I think it's there to minimize air getting up underneath the hood and causing lift, as well as to prevent water from getting into the engine bay.

BTW, the hood looks kick ass.

EDIT: IMHO, I would want to get the after market hood as close to the stock one as possible (i.e. windshield squirters, hood prop and seal). The hood struts would be a bonus.

hay we use those squiter things on the hood for fun down here in texas, at least i do anyways xD.

DarkSidEclipse · November 25th, 2009, 09:41 PM

Great link pops props to you

Ballfade · November 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM

yea it is +rep to ya pops

Mattman · November 25th, 2009, 09:52 PM

wrong thread

Mattman · November 25th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PopsGT

Not having windshield squirters can be a bitch, especially when road spray is not being countered be falling precipitation. I know this is a gamble, a real big gamble, but here's a how to on drilling fiberglass. Also, I could be mistaken but I think that rubber strip is just as you called it, a seal. I think it's there to minimize air getting up underneath the hood and causing lift, as well as to prevent water from getting into the engine bay.

BTW, the hood looks kick ass.

EDIT: IMHO, I would want to get the after market hood as close to the stock one as possible (i.e. windshield squirters, hood prop and seal). The hood struts would be a bonus.

thanks for the link, ill read it after this post. i thought the seal would help prevent lift as well. but im noticed some scratches on my last hood, so i thought it may protect it a little also.

i think once the new eyelids get put on, to match the rspec seam itll look perfect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyder8213

IMHO, it's only fiberglass. If it cracks while being drilled, then fix it. It's something they should have done prior to painting it. I would be mroe concerned with drilling CF than fiberglass, but people do it all the time installing hood pins. I understand they said they don't work much with fiberglass, which should have been a warning flag. I would have found a body shop that does more work along the lines of what you needed. I'm sure in your area there are shops around that specialize in body kit work.

its a legit body shop, but fiberglass isnt something they work with often. im in tyler now which is about 2.5 hours outside of dallas, and believe it or not NO shop local works with fiberglass. i found a bout shop that said they could do everything, but they didnt work a lot with cars. to me that was more of a warning flag. these guys have a lifetime warranty on the work and install. i must admit i was pretty pissed when they said they didnt drill the squirters. its deffinetly something ill go back and make them do. the hood is now painted, will it be problematic to drill it now? (squirters and hood props)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaHunter78

The rubber seal is a weather strip however all it really successeds in doing is blocking airflow, and keeping heat in the engine bay pulling that off was technically my first mod lol. If you do install the struts don't let the hood lift on its own

thats another concern, id hate to be like those shit bags that have their hood fly open on the drag strip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkGuutz

damn that sucks. i was looking at the rspec hood myself and thought it came with the holes like the oem carbon hood. I dont think the weather stripping should be a issue. hows the weight on the hood? is it lighter than the oem one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeker

not is it just lighter but how much lighter?

sorry, the noob in me didnt think about weighing the two for a comparison. i could barely lift the oem (given the weight and size) but the aftermarket i can lift with one hand.

so i still have some things unanswered, but i basically need to know if what im asking is absurd....does anyone with the rspec have the hood struts or windshield squirters? and now that my hood is painted, is it a problem to have them drill it now?

DarkSidEclipse · November 25th, 2009, 10:25 PM

Matt that lil strip isn't going to change anything with your hood flying open, however anytime you go with a lighter hood you should always use pins

Mattman · November 25th, 2009, 10:30 PM

yeah i wish they werent so tacky looking though. i thought about those stealth pins i saw somewhere, but someone said i dont need them. i hit 120 today to test it and it survived and since most people dont have pins, i didnt buy any. i guess its better to be safe than sorry so i may add the stealth ones later on.

DarkSidEclipse · November 25th, 2009, 10:50 PM

They have anodized ones as well

cficare68 · November 26th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Nice looks good with the rspec

bemine_014 · November 26th, 2009, 01:21 AM

we have the same idea about squirters, coz it help alot! thats why i remind the shop when doing the hood and they did the job without hestitation. no prob at all no cracks or anything. so you'll be fine putting that thing in. i use the pair from my old OEM hood.
the rubber gasket thing on the front ddnt bother and no im using hood pins uggghhhhh just not my style. =)

Silver Crew

4gAddict · November 26th, 2009, 07:02 AM

Stealth pins like AeroCatch?

Mattman · November 26th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemine_014

we have the same idea about squirters, coz it help alot! thats why i remind the shop when doing the hood and they did the job without hestitation. no prob at all no cracks or anything. so you'll be fine putting that thing in. i use the pair from my old OEM hood.
the rubber gasket thing on the front ddnt bother and no im using hood pins uggghhhhh just not my style. =)

Silver Crew

thanks, just had to hear from someone who has done it. i feel better about going and making them do it now. they're cool they'll do, they just wanted to make sure. sucks being in this small ass town, with no shops that specialize in this. are you using hood struts? how do you prop your hood open? i agree hood pins look ugly as sin, but i saw some flush mount ones.

thanks again

Mattman · November 26th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4gAddict

Stealth pins like AeroCatch?

yeah thats them, a few places sell them. i may get those just for the piece of mind

SLIM48 · November 26th, 2009, 01:26 PM

like your hood the fitment on mine was great had no problem with it and the no windshield squirters is a bitch but not that bad im thinking about just running the tubes up though the wipers or something like that o and happy turkey day

spyder8213 · November 26th, 2009, 05:14 PM

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to say your body shop has problems, but when working with body kits and what not, it's better to take it to a shop that knows how to work with them. I'm surprised there aren't shops around your area that does that type of work.

HAHA NO · November 26th, 2009, 07:57 PM

so when you get this hood its better to get hood pins or can the stock latch hold it in place?

MarkGuutz · November 29th, 2009, 05:15 PM

i think ima get hood pins just in case

DarkSidEclipse · November 29th, 2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAHA NO

so when you get this hood its better to get hood pins or can the stock latch hold it in place?

The latch can hold it, but at higher speeds with a lighter hood, and the air rushing under it there always the chance that the weight might not hold it down. IMO It's always safe then sorry.

BTW I saw a Evo 9 with the aero catch pins when they were locked you could barely see them unless you were looking, but it looked real clean

Mattman · November 29th, 2009, 11:37 PM

good ill get those. il post some better pics tomorrow once i get the new eyelids on.

November 25th, 2009, 11:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 4,695 Rep Power: 15	new hood i know a lot of people bitch about the fitment on the rspec hood, i even sold my previous because it wasnt 100% perfect. needless to say, when i went back to oem, my car.....well, it just felt incomplete. so i bought another hood, i went with the rspec again and had it professionally installed this time. I must say its awesome, fitment is perfect, a thousand times better than my last one. i have a few questions though, and although these things may have been addressed i couldnt find the "specific" answers i needed. the body shop, who i trust, said they would rather not install the windshield squirters. i was very adamant about retaining these, since my last aftermarket hood deleted them and it was a huge pain in the ass considering i do a lot of traveling. they said they think if they drill a spot for them, it may crack the fiberglass rendering the whole hood useless. they've told me many times that they dont deal with fiberglass much, so they are very careful. how true is this? i understand there always can be a risk, but how dangerous is this? i havent found one car with the hood and squirters, so what do you guys do? just live without them? also they didnt want to install my redline hood struts. Basically for the same reason, fiberglass possibly cracking. i know tons of people have asked can you use the hood struts with an aftermarket hood, but it seems the question is always directed to the struts being to strong and possibly bending the hood up in the middle. id like to know the answer to this bending issue as well, but im really concerned about the cracking, i have never heard this before, and though i trust these guys id like to check with the community and hear your comments. (i forgot to mention the rspec does not have a spot for the hood prop, so it seems struts are the only option, how do you guys prop it open?) the two guys working on my car, said that if some of ya'll have done it (specifically with the rspec) they would feel more comfortable doing it. they said the rspec is extremely light for a fiberglasss hood, and more thin than most they have dealt with so thats why theyre concerned. one last question, the oem hood has a rubber "seal" (i guess is what its called) up towards the front. it seems like this acts as a cushion for the hood so it doesnt hit bare metal by the radiator. the shop did not move this piece to the new hood, and im worried about it scratching or getting damaged. is this a valid concern? should i move that rubber piece over? i appreciate the help, and so far from my experience body work is best left to professionals. these guys redid my kit and hood, and everything looks A LOT better. lesson learned. __________________ Selling Brembos & Black Projectors. Email me at matthewnmartin@me.com for more info. www.justndesigns.com

November 25th, 2009, 11:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 4,695 Rep Power: 15	heres some quick pix i just snapped, again ignore the eyelids. i bought some new ones and need to install them, the ones on right now were to match the oem fitment __________________ Selling Brembos & Black Projectors. Email me at matthewnmartin@me.com for more info. www.justndesigns.com

November 25th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
PopsGT 1 Step Forward, 2 Back Name: Pops Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: An Indy Burb Vehicle: '09 Rave Red GT Posts: 822 Rep Power: 1	Not having windshield squirters can be a bitch, especially when road spray is not being countered be falling precipitation. I know this is a gamble, a real big gamble, but here's a how to on drilling fiberglass. Also, I could be mistaken but I think that rubber strip is just as you called it, a seal. I think it's there to minimize air getting up underneath the hood and causing lift, as well as to prevent water from getting into the engine bay. BTW, the hood looks kick ass. EDIT: IMHO, I would want to get the after market hood as close to the stock one as possible (i.e. windshield squirters, hood prop and seal). The hood struts would be a bonus. Last edited by PopsGT; November 25th, 2009 at 12:37 PM.

November 25th, 2009, 12:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
spyder8213 Senior Member Tournaments Won: 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Vehicle: 2007 Eclipse GS Posts: 4,042 Rep Power: 44	IMHO, it's only fiberglass. If it cracks while being drilled, then fix it. It's something they should have done prior to painting it. I would be mroe concerned with drilling CF than fiberglass, but people do it all the time installing hood pins. I understand they said they don't work much with fiberglass, which should have been a warning flag. I would have found a body shop that does more work along the lines of what you needed. I'm sure in your area there are shops around that specialize in body kit work. __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...3-history.html PM me for info on getting a custom 4G harness bar made. Last edited by spyder8213; November 25th, 2009 at 12:35 PM.

November 25th, 2009, 12:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 6,879 Rep Power: 64	The rubber seal is a weather strip however all it really successeds in doing is blocking airflow, and keeping heat in the engine bay pulling that off was technically my first mod lol. If you do install the struts don't let the hood lift on its own __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

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November 25th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 41	damn that sucks. i was looking at the rspec hood myself and thought it came with the holes like the oem carbon hood. I dont think the weather stripping should be a issue. hows the weight on the hood? is it lighter than the oem one?

November 25th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 6,879 Rep Power: 64	Great link pops props to you __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

November 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ballfade black guy with nawzz Name: Keith "The Ricer" Randolph Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston! Vehicle: 07 silver GS-N Posts: 4,038 Rep Power: 8	yea it is +rep to ya pops __________________ Mods: just ask Comin Soon: Welcome to the home of the 4th Generation of the Eclipse, now go buy yourself a nitrous system.

November 25th, 2009, 09:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 4,695 Rep Power: 15	wrong thread __________________ Selling Brembos & Black Projectors. Email me at matthewnmartin@me.com for more info. www.justndesigns.com

November 25th, 2009, 10:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 6,879 Rep Power: 64	Matt that lil strip isn't going to change anything with your hood flying open, however anytime you go with a lighter hood you should always use pins __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

November 25th, 2009, 10:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 4,695 Rep Power: 15	yeah i wish they werent so tacky looking though. i thought about those stealth pins i saw somewhere, but someone said i dont need them. i hit 120 today to test it and it survived and since most people dont have pins, i didnt buy any. i guess its better to be safe than sorry so i may add the stealth ones later on. __________________ Selling Brembos & Black Projectors. Email me at matthewnmartin@me.com for more info. www.justndesigns.com

November 25th, 2009, 10:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu For Now Can't wait to get back to the mainland Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 6,879 Rep Power: 64	They have anodized ones as well __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

November 26th, 2009, 01:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
cficare68 Yes it's an Automatic Name: Alan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Boise, ID Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GT Posts: 299 Rep Power: 1	Nice looks good with the rspec __________________ 18" MKW Rims, AEM CAI w/ bypass, Outlaw TB and IM Spacers, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Ceramic Pads, RRE Headers/Axelback, Tanabe Strut and Tie Bar, Energy Suspenion Motor Mounts, Ingalls Stiffy, Eibach/Progress Sway Bars, 12k Heads, 3k Fogs, D2 Racing Springs, Rallliart Eyelids, TB Bypass, and 5% Tint.

November 26th, 2009, 01:21 AM	#17 (permalink)
bemine_014 4gGT, 1g GS, 04outlander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: seattle Vehicle: 06 eclipse GT Posts: 594 Rep Power: 3	we have the same idea about squirters, coz it help alot! thats why i remind the shop when doing the hood and they did the job without hestitation. no prob at all no cracks or anything. so you'll be fine putting that thing in. i use the pair from my old OEM hood. the rubber gasket thing on the front ddnt bother and no im using hood pins uggghhhhh just not my style. =) Silver Crew __________________ CoDe NaMe: Mhyne...... Last edited by bemine_014; November 26th, 2009 at 01:25 AM.

November 26th, 2009, 07:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
4gAddict aka Niño4g Name: Alex Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,138 Rep Power: 3	Stealth pins like AeroCatch?

November 26th, 2009, 01:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
SLIM48 Senior Member Name: Jimbo Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: West Monroe LA Vehicle: 08 GS Black Posts: 146 Rep Power: 2	like your hood the fitment on mine was great had no problem with it and the no windshield squirters is a bitch but not that bad im thinking about just running the tubes up though the wipers or something like that o and happy turkey day __________________ FUJITA INTAKE TANABE AXLEBACK RED UNDERGLOW SCREEN RADIO TWO 12' SUBS RIMS AND TIRES OEM WING

November 26th, 2009, 05:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
spyder8213 Senior Member Tournaments Won: 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Vehicle: 2007 Eclipse GS Posts: 4,042 Rep Power: 44	Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to say your body shop has problems, but when working with body kits and what not, it's better to take it to a shop that knows how to work with them. I'm surprised there aren't shops around your area that does that type of work. __________________ http://club4g.org/board/members-ride...3-history.html PM me for info on getting a custom 4G harness bar made.

November 26th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
HAHA NO Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Woodstock, On Vehicle: 07 Eclipse MR Posts: 889 Rep Power: 3	so when you get this hood its better to get hood pins or can the stock latch hold it in place? __________________ 273 WHP~263 TQ

November 29th, 2009, 05:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
MarkGuutz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, California Vehicle: 06/Eclipse/GS Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 41	i think ima get hood pins just in case

November 29th, 2009, 11:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
Mattman a=dv/dt Name: Matthew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Orleans Vehicle: 2008 ECLIPSE GS Posts: 4,695 Rep Power: 15	good ill get those. il post some better pics tomorrow once i get the new eyelids on. __________________ Selling Brembos & Black Projectors. Email me at matthewnmartin@me.com for more info. www.justndesigns.com

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