Fi/c maps: 4g69 - Club4G Forum : Mitsubishi Eclipse 4G Forums - 2006-2012 Eclipse Authority

DarkSidEclipse · June 25th, 2010, 06:20 PM

**POSTER OF ANY MAP IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OTHER USER HAVING ANY TYPE OF ISSUES WITH HIS/HER MOTOR

If you post a MAP please Include the following information. ie:

Motor: 4G69T
Injector's: 440cc injectors (If other than stock)
N2O Shot: if applicable
Charger: Turbo (or Super if applicable) try to post a brand and model as well ie: TD04-14b
Boost: 7psi and 10 psi (if applicable)
BOV Type: Atmosphere (if applicable)
Location: Florida
Temperature: Spring Condition's
Supporting Mods: Stock Internal's (if applicable)

If I missed anything, or there is something else you think should be up here let me know.

DarkSidEclipse · September 10th, 2010, 08:54 PM

Hey guys anyone have a N/A Map to share with a MAF Pass thru map in it

DarkSidEclipse · September 10th, 2010, 08:57 PM

Motor: 4G69T
Injector's: 440cc injectors
Charger: Turbo
Boost: 7psi and 10 psi
BOV Type: Atmosphere
Location: Florida
Temperature: Spring Condition's
Supporting Mods: Stock Internal's

BrianJ · September 10th, 2010, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

Motor: 4G69T
Injector's: 440cc injectors
Charger: Turbo
Boost: 7psi and 10 psi
BOV Type: Atmosphere
Location: Florida
Temperature: Spring Condition's
Supporting Mods: Stock Internal's

Dude...is your car running with that 10psi map in there??? It's WAY out of whack on the MAF line...

DarkSidEclipse · September 10th, 2010, 09:30 PM

No Brian I am not running that map. When we started this thread Mecks gave it to me to post for him I just now got around to posting is it all

BrianJ · September 10th, 2010, 09:38 PM

Wow...did his car run with that???

I wouldn't put that in a car like that...it's modifying the MAF signal WAY too much...that's gonna cause problems with ignition timing and fueling...You shouldn't even need to be messing with the MAF sensor other than to MAYBE clamp it under boost...

DarkSidEclipse · September 10th, 2010, 09:45 PM

Really cause his car was running good, and I think he had it tuned somewhere

DarkSidEclipse · September 10th, 2010, 09:49 PM

Motor = 4G69

This is a Pass Through MAP only.

The only change is the MAF MAP has been set-up as a pass through to get the car running. It is only written so The MAF line sends out the same thing it recieves

BrianJ · September 10th, 2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

Really cause his car was running good, and I think he had it tuned somewhere

It may have...but the issue I have with that is that most of that MAF map was unnecessary and would need to be corrected in other areas of the tune...

In other words, by changing voltages in the MAF table like that it will affect timing and fuel at those locations...which you will then have to go to the fuel map and change it to correct for what the MAF table is doing...same thing for the ignition map. Seems to me in a turbo setup you'd just want to leave the MAF alone, maybe clamp it as necessary, and do all the tuning directly in the fuel and ignition maps...much simpler and it's how the FIC was designed.

I would have left the MAF map completely alone and done the tuning in the fuel and ignition tables only...but if it worked it worked...just was alot MORE work!

meDave · February 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM

Just upgraded my F/IC to 3.04, and bumping to the top.

DarkSidEclipse · February 21st, 2011, 01:53 AM

Dave are you running an AFR with your FI/C setup as an aux gauge?

meDave · February 21st, 2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

Dave are you running an AFR with your FI/C setup as an aux gauge?

Yeah, I am running a AEM wideband. I've done a lil road tuning with my friend, and pulled some fuel but that's about it. Loaded the passthru you posted for now. I'm gonna load that turbo map just I can see what the tables look like for I have not seen a map before.

DarkSidEclipse · June 24th, 2011, 06:12 PM

Motor: 4G69
Injector's: Stock
Location: Tenn, KY Border
Temperature: Spring/Summer condotions a constant 80 to 100 degrees
Supporting Mods: RRE Header, Third Cat removal, Magnaflow Catback, Fujita Intake, RRE UDP, GT Throttle Body

This is a MAP I have been working on for a while. It has a slight timing advance, very slight not much. The fuel Trims are almost perfect around 12.7-13.2 through out a whole 3rd gear pull. You might have to add or take away fuel depending on your climates temp.

DarkSidEclipse · June 24th, 2011, 06:25 PM

Keep in mind this a mild timing change, and not a big one for off the wall numbers. This is mainly to maximize your mods and get the fuel trims around where they should be. You should notice a difference it might be big it might be little, really depends on where your fuel trims are at now. I think the guys with a GT TB will notice more than anything. That was the mod I had to adjust for the most. To get my MIVEC kick back.

meDave · June 26th, 2011, 02:41 AM

I went to the track a couple weeks ago and wanted to do a few datalog passes. This is the first time I ran my F/IC since I've upgraded it. I've had the bypass on it, because I do not know how to make a map. I plugged it in, and took a run down the track. I was getting a hiccup in the high RPM's. Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced that.

I'm going to load up the map you just posted, and see how my car reacts to it. I will post up when I do.

DarkSidEclipse · June 26th, 2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meDave

I went to the track a couple weeks ago and wanted to do a few datalog passes. This is the first time I ran my F/IC since I've upgraded it. I've had the bypass on it, because I do not know how to make a map. I plugged it in, and took a run down the track. I was getting a hiccup in the high RPM's. Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced that.

I'm going to load up the map you just posted, and see how my car reacts to it. I will post up when I do.

Yeah there is a little bit of a hiccup/stutter or something like that when the FI/C takes over. I assumed this was normal, or to be expected. I could be wrong? For me its not really a slowing though its more like a little power jump when the fuel starts

BrianJ · June 26th, 2011, 05:33 PM

I wouldnt say that...as the FIC is controlling the injectors all the time. There shouldn't be a miss or hiccup at all...

akley88 · June 26th, 2011, 06:03 PM

hey brian i got a question. is there a way to have the FIC retard timing when nitrous is activated.

BrianJ · June 26th, 2011, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akley88

hey brian i got a question. is there a way to have the FIC retard timing when nitrous is activated.

Yep, you can switch the whole map if you want!

akley88 · June 26th, 2011, 07:51 PM

i cant wait to get my harness now

HomesickAlien · June 28th, 2011, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

Motor: 4G69
Injector's: Stock
Location: Tenn, KY Border
Temperature: Spring/Summer condotions a constant 80 to 100 degrees
Supporting Mods: RRE Header, Third Cat removal, Magnaflow Catback, Fujita Intake, RRE UDP, GT Throttle Body

This is a MAP I have been working on for a while. It has a slight timing advance, very slight not much. The fuel Trims are almost perfect around 12.7-13.2 through out a whole 3rd gear pull. You might have to add or take away fuel depending on your climates temp.

This is almost my exact setup except for the throttle body -- think I would have any trouble running this until I can make it to the tune shop?

DarkSidEclipse · July 24th, 2011, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomesickAlien

This is almost my exact setup except for the throttle body -- think I would have any trouble running this until I can make it to the tune shop?

I had to add a lot of fuel for the throttle body so your most likely going to be really rich from 3500 + rpms.

snakeeyes · July 25th, 2011, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

I had to add a lot of fuel for the throttle body so your most likely going to be really rich from 3500 + rpms.

just how lean was the car running with the gt tb ?

DarkSidEclipse · July 26th, 2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

just how lean was the car running with the gt tb ?

17-18 complete and total top end power loss

DarkSidEclipse · July 26th, 2011, 11:59 AM

Motor: 4G69
Injector's: Stock
Location: Tenn, KY Border
Temperature: Spring/Summer condotions a constant 80 to 100 degrees
Supporting Mods: RRE Header, Third Cat removal, Magnaflow Catback, Fujita Intake, RRE UDP, GT Throttle Body

A little more advance and little richer. If you don't have the GT TB this is going to be way to rich for you.

*Side note I would not recommend the GT TB for anyone who can not tune for it
*

muscles · July 26th, 2011, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

I had to add a lot of fuel for the throttle body so your most likely going to be really rich from 3500 + rpms.

By doing this you successfully got that "mivec" kick back?

snakeeyes · July 26th, 2011, 12:02 PM

wierd that your running that lean with the tb.medave stated it made the car run a lil richer,not leaner in the gs to gt tb swap thread.

snakeeyes · July 26th, 2011, 12:50 PM

edit;nvmd.

meDave · July 26th, 2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSidEclipse

17-18 complete and total top end power loss

I have seen some top end power loss, but it was when I switched to a 2.5 catback setup. As for running lean, I have not seen that at all for the 2 yrs I've been running with the GT TB. If my car was running that lean with any mod I would of put it on blast here on the forum and immediately removed it. In fact this is the first I've heard of anyone running so lean.

I loaded your map, and I had a violent hiccup. I forgot my usb cord at home and so I couldn't datalog it, but looking at my wideband it went super lean for a split second and then took off. I will load it again and have a friend with me next time so we can monitor and datalog it.

After the hiccup it ran fine and AFR's were good, but it was real bad.

akley88 · July 26th, 2011, 08:26 PM

i dont have any lean issues with my car and the gt tb. i run rich.

BrianJ · July 26th, 2011, 10:03 PM

Yeah, rich is normal...if the car is running that lean, most likely there's a MAF sensor issue.

DarkSidEclipse · July 28th, 2011, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianJ

Yeah, rich is normal...if the car is running that lean, most likely there's a MAF sensor issue.

Let me explain a little more in depth here. Before my MAP yes it was running rich a little to rich in fact. There was a little power loss there as well from running so rich. Than I advanced the timing a little on your pass through MAP from 3.35-4.99 Brian which in turn leaned it out as expected. So I adjusted fuel as needed.

I am sure if you played with the timing numbers a little an pulled them back a little you could find some happy medium in the fueling without touching the fuel map.

Dave as far as the hiccup I am not sure I am not experiencing that all. The closest thing I would have to anything like that is a little torque steer when MIVEC hits from the additional torque.

akley88 · July 30th, 2011, 08:32 AM

how bad is it that i noticed a wot at 6k rpm my afr is 10.8:1

DarkSidEclipse · July 30th, 2011, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akley88

how bad is it that i noticed a wot at 6k rpm my afr is 10.8:1

10.8 you are losing power

akley88 · July 30th, 2011, 09:06 AM

yeah that might explain that lagging feeling and huge fuel consumption problems. i really need to get the fic hooked up to fix that.

DarkSidEclipse · August 1st, 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akley88

yeah that might explain that lagging feeling and huge fuel consumption problems. i really need to get the fic hooked up to fix that.

If your spraying please dont run the map i posted as atated the timing is asvanced.

Tomorrow i will post what i finally ended up with. Pretty steady 12.5 pull went a little richer. It just felt better than 13

muscles · August 7th, 2011, 09:48 AM

bump

DarkSidEclipse · August 15th, 2011, 08:44 PM

Motor: 4G69
Injector's: Stock
Location: Tenn, KY Border
Temperature: Spring/Summer condotions a constant 80 to 100 degrees
Supporting Mods: RRE Header, Third Cat removal, Magnaflow Catback, Fujita Intake, RRE UDP, GT Throttle Body
Fuel: 93 Octane

A little more advance and little richer. If you don't have the GT TB this is going to be way to rich for you.

Everything under MIVEC is as stock, 3400 is when timing and fuel change

BrianJ · August 15th, 2011, 09:02 PM

??? ^^^ your Mivec starts at 3400???

HomesickAlien · August 15th, 2011, 10:00 PM

Yeah....mine hits at 4000.

June 25th, 2010, 06:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	Fi/c maps: 4g69 **POSTER OF ANY MAP IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OTHER USER HAVING ANY TYPE OF ISSUES WITH HIS/HER MOTOR If you post a MAP please Include the following information. ie: Motor: 4G69T Injector's: 440cc injectors (If other than stock) N2O Shot: if applicable Charger: Turbo (or Super if applicable) try to post a brand and model as well ie: TD04-14b Boost: 7psi and 10 psi (if applicable) BOV Type: Atmosphere (if applicable) Location: Florida Temperature: Spring Condition's Supporting Mods: Stock Internal's (if applicable) If I missed anything, or there is something else you think should be up here let me know. __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

September 10th, 2010, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	Hey guys anyone have a N/A Map to share with a MAF Pass thru map in it __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

September 10th, 2010, 09:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	No Brian I am not running that map. When we started this thread Mecks gave it to me to post for him I just now got around to posting is it all __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

September 10th, 2010, 09:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,489 Rep Power: 9	Wow...did his car run with that??? I wouldn't put that in a car like that...it's modifying the MAF signal WAY too much...that's gonna cause problems with ignition timing and fueling...You shouldn't even need to be messing with the MAF sensor other than to MAYBE clamp it under boost... __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

September 10th, 2010, 09:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	Really cause his car was running good, and I think he had it tuned somewhere __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

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February 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
meDave Senior Member Name: David Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco, Calif. Vehicle: 06-GS-Titanium Pearl Posts: 1,119 Rep Power: 6	Just upgraded my F/IC to 3.04, and bumping to the top. __________________ Performance: AEM F/IC w/ BilletProof PNP Harness, AEM UEGO Wideband, 2.5" Catback Exhaust w/Dual Outlets, Fujita CAI, Ported Intake Manifold with GT TB Swap, Ralco RZ Short Shifter, RPW Thermal Spacer Kit, RRE SS Race Header Suspension: Evo Brembo Swap, Front: Cusco Strut Tower Bar, Custom Tein Coilovers with D2 Camber Plates Rear: Eibach Sportlines Springs, KYB GR-2 Shocks

February 21st, 2011, 01:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	Dave are you running an AFR with your FI/C setup as an aux gauge? __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

June 24th, 2011, 06:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
DarkSidEclipse Did u see GT on the back? Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somewhere in between KY and TN Vehicle: 2006 Eclipse GS W26 Posts: 8,552 Rep Power: 67	Keep in mind this a mild timing change, and not a big one for off the wall numbers. This is mainly to maximize your mods and get the fuel trims around where they should be. You should notice a difference it might be big it might be little, really depends on where your fuel trims are at now. I think the guys with a GT TB will notice more than anything. That was the mod I had to adjust for the most. To get my MIVEC kick back. __________________ "No, no, no, light speed is too slow. We're gonna have to go right to MIVEC speed."

June 26th, 2011, 02:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
meDave Senior Member Name: David Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Francisco, Calif. Vehicle: 06-GS-Titanium Pearl Posts: 1,119 Rep Power: 6	I went to the track a couple weeks ago and wanted to do a few datalog passes. This is the first time I ran my F/IC since I've upgraded it. I've had the bypass on it, because I do not know how to make a map. I plugged it in, and took a run down the track. I was getting a hiccup in the high RPM's. Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced that. I'm going to load up the map you just posted, and see how my car reacts to it. I will post up when I do. __________________ Performance: AEM F/IC w/ BilletProof PNP Harness, AEM UEGO Wideband, 2.5" Catback Exhaust w/Dual Outlets, Fujita CAI, Ported Intake Manifold with GT TB Swap, Ralco RZ Short Shifter, RPW Thermal Spacer Kit, RRE SS Race Header Suspension: Evo Brembo Swap, Front: Cusco Strut Tower Bar, Custom Tein Coilovers with D2 Camber Plates Rear: Eibach Sportlines Springs, KYB GR-2 Shocks

June 26th, 2011, 05:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,489 Rep Power: 9	I wouldnt say that...as the FIC is controlling the injectors all the time. There shouldn't be a miss or hiccup at all... __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

June 26th, 2011, 06:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,712 Rep Power: 7	hey brian i got a question. is there a way to have the FIC retard timing when nitrous is activated. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

June 26th, 2011, 07:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,712 Rep Power: 7	i cant wait to get my harness now __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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snakeeyes 4g Fanatic Name: Loves haters ! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: TN hills Vehicle: 09 5 speed manual Posts: 3,172 Rep Power: 5	wierd that your running that lean with the tb.medave stated it made the car run a lil richer,not leaner in the gs to gt tb swap thread. __________________ Modified Last edited by snakeeyes; July 26th, 2011 at 06:35 PM.

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snakeeyes 4g Fanatic Name: Loves haters ! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: TN hills Vehicle: 09 5 speed manual Posts: 3,172 Rep Power: 5	edit;nvmd. __________________ Modified Last edited by snakeeyes; July 26th, 2011 at 08:11 PM.

July 26th, 2011, 08:26 PM	#30 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,712 Rep Power: 7	i dont have any lean issues with my car and the gt tb. i run rich. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

July 26th, 2011, 10:03 PM	#31 (permalink)
BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,489 Rep Power: 9	Yeah, rich is normal...if the car is running that lean, most likely there's a MAF sensor issue. __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

July 30th, 2011, 08:32 AM	#33 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,712 Rep Power: 7	how bad is it that i noticed a wot at 6k rpm my afr is 10.8:1 __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

July 30th, 2011, 09:06 AM	#35 (permalink)
akley88 illusionperformance Name: travis Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reading, PA Vehicle: 07 eclipse gs-n Posts: 5,712 Rep Power: 7	yeah that might explain that lagging feeling and huge fuel consumption problems. i really need to get the fic hooked up to fix that. __________________ Member of the giggle gas dark side The Fastest of the Slowest Nitrous Breathers the GS-N's 239whp/262wtq

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BrianJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Vehicle: 06 Eclipse GT Posts: 2,489 Rep Power: 9	??? ^^^ your Mivec starts at 3400??? __________________ Home of BilletProof Racing and the 4G SCM.1 Shift Control Module, the PnP harness for the AEM F/IC, and the Timing advance solution for the F/IC

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HomesickAlien Senior Member Name: Jon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC Vehicle: 2008/Eclipse/Not a GT ; ( Posts: 1,203 Rep Power: 3	Yeah....mine hits at 4000. __________________ Fujita F5 Cold Air Intake> RRE Headers> WORKS Axleback Exhuast> RRE Underdrive Pulley> Meghan Racing Springs> NOS Octane Booster> Seven Nitros

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