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Old November 1st, 2016, 10:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Would be fun for track use. Or if you treat the streets like one
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Would be fun for track use. Or if you treat the streets like one
Besides the odd pull here or there, I don't street race. I've decided that since I'm keeping this car, I may as well do what I intended to and track her.

Also, I'm not afraid of spending extra for a superior product, so if the Cusco or Works bars are better I'd pick those up instead.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 01:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My advice (opinion) would be to start with the Progress Rear Sway Bar. Leave the front alone, this will reduce understeer and neutralize roll.
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My advice (opinion) would be to start with the Progress Rear Sway Bar. Leave the front alone, this will reduce understeer and neutralize roll.
Very well. I live in Quebec where winters and road salt can be quite harsh. Is it safe to run the RSB in these conditions or is it best to remove it come the first snow fall?
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You might want to consider getting a body brace as well. On my way throught my city a couple times a week I drive through this a sharp turn with this body brace I've felt less of a flex in the car and can easily go through any sharp turn at 40mph
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Edit: The RSB come powder coated so unless you really feel the need to take them off to prevent any damage from the salt, you should be able to leave them throughout the winter.

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Is it safe to run the RSB in these conditions or is it best to remove it come the first snow fall?
As long as the bushings are greased you'll be fine, rust won't be an issue w/ RSB.
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You might want to consider getting a body brace as well. On my way throught my city a couple times a week I drive through this a sharp turn with this body brace I've felt less of a flex in the car and can easily go through any sharp turn at 40mph
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Edit: The RSB come powder coated so unless you really feel the need to take them off to prevent any damage from the salt, you should be able to leave them throughout the winter.
Looks like some hardcore hardware. Not sure I'm willing to give up the back seat just yet though.

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As long as the bushings are greased you'll be fine, rust won't be an issue w/ RSB.
Good to know. Is the Progress well established as the superior bar, or just having the best bang:buck ratio? I wouldn't hesitate to spring for the Works or ST if it'll give me a better ride (not an elitist, just don't like to skimp out on mods)
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The Progress, WORKS, and ST are all 3 way adjustable, 24mm...so I'd lean toward Progress simply due to cost. I can't see what those other bars would be doing to dramatically increase ride quality. Progress makes a good bar! My wife had one in her Ralliart Sportback and loved it, not sure why the others are so much more expensive. I have Eibach on mine, but looks like they discontinued it.
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Looks like some hardcore hardware. Not sure I'm willing to give up the back seat just yet though. )
Actually you don't lose the back seats. They come with new brackets that let you keep the back seats also if you have the stock sub woofer it'll clear that as well.
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The Progress, WORKS, and ST are all 3 way adjustable, 24mm...so I'd lean toward Progress simply due to cost. I can't see what those other bars would be doing to dramatically increase ride quality. Progress makes a good bar! My wife had one in her Ralliart Sportback and loved it, not sure why the others are so much more expensive. I have Eibach on mine, but looks like they discontinued it.
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Actually you don't lose the back seats. They come with new brackets that let you keep the back seats also if you have the stock sub woofer it'll clear that as well.
Awesome, I'll put that on the list then
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Actually you don't lose the back seats. They come with new brackets that let you keep the back seats also if you have the stock sub woofer it'll clear that as well.
Do you have any pictures?
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Lol, damn. I see they've become a lot more simplified and lightweight. What's to stop someone from just sticking a cheap steel bar in there

I'd put threaded ends on it, so I can extend it once it's in to put pressure out
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Lol, damn. I see they've become a lot more simplified and lightweight. What's to stop someone from just sticking a cheap steel bar in there

I'd put threaded ends on it, so I can extend it once it's in to put pressure out
Better steel than aluminum. Rob z makes them he makes it out of the same material that he uses to make his roll cages from that he tracks so those have to go through lots of inspections to pass so it's not some cheap product.

By adding those threaded ends you'll be making the bar itself weaker. With the torsion forces acting on the car could cause the bar to snap at the weakest point. That's why it's made out of one solid piece of steel.
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It would be weaker, yes. But I couldn't imagine it being all that weak. Use something like grade 8 steel if you need that strength.

On the existing models of brace, what holds them in place?
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They're bolted into the frame where the rear seats clip to stay up you pull those out and bolt the bar up in there.
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So I purchased all three bars because a) they were cheap, and b) because I'd be paying through my dickhole in shipping and duty anyways so it was better I maximize my order. Tanabe STB went in well enough, Sustec/Tanabe UB was even easier, but the Progress rear bar was hampered by unreusable endlinks. Partly my fault because I didn't think to order new links sooner. My question today is which links should I buy and if there are advantages going with aftermarket?

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